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Caledon Speeding Ticket 45 km/hr over in 60 km/hr zone

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HongCao wrote:
May 10th, 2014 12:26 pm
Any help on this
How many times did you send a disclosure request? Send 3 or so in total within the next few days. If no response 18 days before your trial date, file a motion for a stay based on section 7 of the charter. If this fails, then adjourn your trial.
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SurplusPlus wrote:
May 11th, 2014 9:33 am
No. Crimes occur all day every day without direct witnesses. You think a murder isnt a crime just because there's no video evidence? It's the same with speeding. In theory, law enforcement can merely observe you blasting by and swear out a complaint against you. Radar and the like are technical tools intended to make things less subjective.
you commit a "crime of speeding" every day but you choose not to report your crimes. you only man up when you are caught :D :D :D
I bet it's still not true because when you get a ticket, you will still fight it because the officer was wrong in your case or that was an honest mistake :facepalm:
SurplusPlus wrote:
May 11th, 2014 9:33 am
Read the thread. The guy you're vainly defending already confessed to 90 km in a 60 zone. All your suggestions about dirty cops and cops suddenly not knowing how to use equipment they've used thousand of times before is irrelevant. He already admitted excessive speed.

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom to help people commit perjury. I'm surprised this kind of facilitation is even allowed here.
LOL another big word you do not understand :facepalm:
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poedua wrote:
May 11th, 2014 8:15 am
Bingo ...couldn't of said it better myself. :D

Here on RFD ? No one who get a speeding ticket deserved it / is guilty ! Yeah right :rolleyes:

Reminds me of the quote from Shawshank...

[INDENT]" Everyone in here [ prison ] is innocent, you know that ? "

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I guess you forgot when you claimed you never speed and never do anything wrong LOL
here are your own words. let me remind you :facepalm:
Originally Posted by biztyke
you keep saying that through this whole thread, but you failed to answer what i asked pages ago. do you ever speed?
I answered that a long time ago.


Originally Posted by biztyke
ever do a rolling stop at an intersection?
Not even once.

I always wait for the seat ' bump ' when stopping......taught my kids that as well


Originally Posted by biztyke
ever litter?
Not since high school....I hate littering.


Originally Posted by biztyke
ever download a song off kaaza or the like?
No...I buy a lot of used CD's though ....mostly from The Beat Goes On.



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or trade digital music with friends? .
Nope...not even once.


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do your kids ever do it?
I told them not to - whether they do it or not is another matter.

Hopefully they don't


Originally Posted by biztyke
ever not wear your seatbelt?
Nope...not even once....not wearing one is a pet peeve of mine..


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drink underage?
Yup...I certainly did that.

I'm not perfect.


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park in a no parking spot(no, putting your blinkers on does not make it ok)?
Nope...not even once....I have a pet peeve about parking illegally as I have handicapped relatives.



Originally Posted by biztyke
ever not let someone in while driving(failure to yield)?
Nope

By accident perhaps...but certainly not intentionally.


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ever jaywalk?
Nope



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do you have a pet and is it licensed and vaccinated?
Yup...all my dogs have met spec.


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if it's a dog, do you let it off leash in public?
Nope

Off lease only in designated dog parks.

On leash for all other walks.


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do you use your cell phone while driving(legally you cant even touch it, only your BT headset)?
Nope......no phone call is that important.

I'm I'm curious as to who called, I just pull over.

I really should get a BT.


Originally Posted by biztyke
ever stretch the numbers on your taxes?
No...I have a CA buddy of mine do my taxes.


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ever fail to use your turn signal?
By accident perhaps...but certainly not intentionally.



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ever take any meds not prescribed to you?
Never.

Only an idiot would do that.


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ever "forget" to put money in a parking meter?
Nope....I keep a ton of change in the car.


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ever not pay customs on something you bought online from the states?
Nope...not even once.

I don't mess around with customs....it isn't worth it.

I pay whatever I'm am knowingly supposed to.


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ever gamble(even for a few dollars) outside a legally licensed casino(office pool, poker at home)?
I don't gamble illegally.

That said, I put in $5 for an office hockey pool a couple of times.

I didn't know that was illegal...if I had, I wouldn't of done it.


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ever change lanes in an intersection?
Nope...not even once.

Another BIG pet peeve of mine.

Only an idiot would do that


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ever use the hov lane at all with only one person?
Nope........only a selfish A-hole would do that.


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what about making a left turn when the light turns red?
No...only on yellow.


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do you follow the guy in front of you or do you wait like your suppose to?
Depends on the traffic volume and flow and size of intersection.


Originally Posted by biztyke
ever turn right at a "no right turn on red" light?
No.

Though I've certainly wanted to many times.


Originally Posted by biztyke
ever find money on the sidewalk?
Pennies and quarters mostly, maybe a Loonie here and there over the years....nothing big to speak of



Originally Posted by biztyke
you know its illegal to pick it up right?
I didn't know that.

I'll stop picking up pennies and quarters and loonies up from the sidewalk in future.

Thanks.
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HongCao wrote:
May 10th, 2014 12:26 pm
Any help on this
Just some helpful advice, if you can go to the courthouse a week before your case and see other case`s that are being heard and sit in the courtroom so you can see what actually goes on it`s nothing like tv that`s for sure. You can watch how everybody interacts and what there jobs are just so you can get a little comfortable in the courthouse setting.

Also just ignore the people that don`t want to help, don`t even bother answering they eventually lose interest and jump on another post.
Especially SurplusPlus every thread about speeding he jumps all over it.
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antigua1999 wrote:
May 11th, 2014 11:40 am
Just some helpful advice, if you can go to the courthouse a week before your case and see other case`s that are being heard and sit in the courtroom so you can see what actually goes on it`s nothing like tv that`s for sure. You can watch how everybody interacts and what there jobs are just so you can get a little comfortable in the courthouse setting.

Also just ignore the people that don`t want to help, don`t even bother answering they eventually lose interest and jump on another post.
Especially SurplusPlus every thread about speeding he jumps all over it.

+1!

Make sure you also ask if the officer is there, sometimes you may get lucky and he may not show up.
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harpz wrote:
May 11th, 2014 1:23 pm
+1!

Make sure you also ask if the officer is there, sometimes you may get lucky and he may not show up.
This rarely happens anymore.
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Gammatron wrote:
Apr 20th, 2014 12:40 pm
OP what ethnicity are you? I know a trick used by many people for those small towns. Request a hindi or cantonese interpreter at trial and the court is obliged to provide one, for sure they wont have one and will have to request one fromToronto which costs $350 an hour, it will cost them 2.5 hours to hire one to give you a $200 ticket. They will just tell you to take a hike and drop the charge. I have a polish friend who gets out of OPP tickets like this in court.
Total B.S. The courts and the prosecutor are two different entities. The prosecution does not care how much of the court's money you waste.
napoleon1769 wrote:
Apr 22nd, 2014 12:55 pm
Can you use this if you know English and was schooled here but you're not confident speaking in court?
HongCao wrote:
Apr 22nd, 2014 11:03 pm
Yes, I would like to know that as well. Can you use this if you are not comfortable with legal jargon and english used in the court?
again, total BS.

I did this for my first ticket ever in wasaga beach. Interpreter drove up from toronto (2 hr drive) at 9AM to be at my court. Ended up pissing off the justice of the peace when the JP realized that i understood english fully.

Dont listen to gammatron's terrible advice or you may end up paying $40,000 for a used broken down dodge caravan.
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Saibot wrote:
May 11th, 2014 1:44 pm
Total B.S. The courts and the prosecutor are two different entities. The prosecution does not care how much of the court's money you waste.





again, total BS.

I did this for my first ticket ever in wasaga beach. Interpreter drove up from toronto (2 hr drive) at 9AM to be at my court. Ended up pissing off the justice of the peace when the JP realized that i understood english fully.

Dont listen to gammatron's terrible advice or you may end up paying $40,000 for a used broken down dodge caravan.
What do you mean $40,000?
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harpz wrote:
May 11th, 2014 10:04 am
So you will randomly charge someone for murder bc you feel like he did it..right...lol...
Randomly? Don't lie. Mounds of evidence points to the offender, he confesses it, we charge him. It's the same situation here. Your statement was if there's no video evidence or police officer watching, there's no crime. That's ludicrous.
harpz wrote:
May 11th, 2014 10:04 am
End of the day officers need to follow their rules too...is it worth it to check? absolutely...
Actually no, not "absolutely". There are times when it might be appropriate to challenge the officer's procedure, and there are times when it would be grossly offensive to do so. This is one of the those times. There's nothing to suggest dirty or incompetent cop here, so conjuring up fake reasons to challenge is offensive. If OP was going 50 km/hr and was clocked at 105 km/hr, sure let's examine that. If the cop was slurring and staggering, sure let's question sobriety. If the cop issuing the ticket was the offenders neighbor and they had a long standing feud, let's dig in and see what's happening. But here's the point: there is ZERO basis for all of the smarmy suggestions being made. The ONLY motivation you have for making the dirty insinuation is to find a loophole for the confessed offender to get away with their crime of excessive speeding.
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May 11th, 2014 10:04 am
absolutely...if there's a way to fight it you should.
No. You should fight it if there's a good reason, if there's serious inconsistency, if there's some shred of a reason to believe any of the derogatory implications. But when there is factually no basis, then cooking up fake reasons is disgusting and cowardly.

This concept of "must fight even if I have to commit an additional crime of perjury" doesn't work for me. It's dishonest and illegal. OP already admitted to driving (at least) 90 km/hr in a 60 km zone. Someone with self-respect would accept the consequences of their behavior without lying about it. Trying to drag down an innocent police officer by insinuating he's corrupt or incompetent just adds a further act of selfishness to the original selfish crime.
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HongCao wrote:
Apr 17th, 2014 9:57 pm
I got pulled over in Caledon on Highway 10 this evening, where the cop claims I was going 105 km/hr (45 km/hr) over in 60 km/hr zone. The ticket is a $335 fine and he said it would be 4 demerit points.

I was just driving with the flow of traffic at that time which about 80-90 km/hr.
Here's a suggestion. Pay your fine, and drive safer in the future. It's a relatively low amount of money, but the cost and demerit points should serve as a reminder while you adjust to the habit of driving within the speed limit.

After paying your debt to society, you can wake up each day and know that you did what a decent, honest, law-abiding grown up would do: you accepted the consequences of your actions, and moved on.

Or you could follow the tricks given by a mob of anti-authority liars who want you to go into court and dishonour yourself and your family's name, commit the crime of perjury, and heap insults on innocent law enforcement people. At best, all this disrespectful behavior will save you a few hundred dollars. Isn't your dignity and self-respect worth more than $335?
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SurplusPlus wrote:
May 11th, 2014 5:17 pm
Here's a suggestion. Pay your fine, and drive safer in the future. It's a relatively low amount of money, but the cost and demerit points should serve as a reminder while you adjust to the habit of driving within the speed limit.

After paying your debt to society, you can wake up each day and know that you did what a decent, honest, law-abiding grown up would do: you accepted the consequences of your actions, and moved on.

Or you could follow the tricks given by a mob of anti-authority liars who want you to go into court and dishonour yourself and your family's name, commit the crime of perjury, and heap insults on innocent law enforcement people. At best, all this disrespectful behavior will save you a few hundred dollars. Isn't your dignity and self-respect worth more than $335?

I wish let me change that we all wish you would stop sprouting your holier than thou attitude. If you read the op`s original post (I know I was not going that fast, as I was just driving with the flow of traffic at that time which about 80-90 km/hr. It was pretty peak time as well since lots of people were driving back to Toronto.) His has the right to take it to court and see what evidence the police officer has against him. You continually sprouting off does nothing to help anybody and just clogs this and many threads. If your so bored with your life and have nothing better to do go stand on a street corner with a slow down don`t speed sign. Op just ignore the poster`s with no help.
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antigua1999 wrote:
May 11th, 2014 6:20 pm
I wish let me change that we all wish you would stop sprouting your holier than thou attitude. If you read the op`s original post (I know I was not going that fast, as I was just driving with the flow of traffic at that time which about 80-90 km/hr. It was pretty peak time as well since lots of people were driving back to Toronto.) His has the right to take it to court and see what evidence the police officer has against him. You continually sprouting off does nothing to help anybody and just clogs this and many threads. If your so bored with your life and have nothing better to do go stand on a street corner with a slow down don`t speed sign. Op just ignore the poster`s with no help.
Look up "ad hominem attack". With maturity, you may learn to discuss and argue the topic, instead of insulting people.

While someone certainly does have the "right" to examine evidence against them, the OP already knows what happened and has confessed it.

Many "ticket buster" types here want to propose dishonest and dishonourable methods of weaseling out of tickets. To an extent, they are free to preach their tactics of lying and trying to discredit innocent people (although it does tread dangerously close to counseling someone to commit a crime).

But I'm equally if not more free to propose an the alternative approach of being a reasonable, rational, mature, and honest citizen - and that includes accepting the consequences of one's mistakes.

It says a lot about your character that you would attack someone just because they raise the idea of being honest and taking responsibility.
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SurplusPlus wrote:
May 11th, 2014 5:17 pm
Here's a suggestion. Pay your fine, and drive safer in the future. It's a relatively low amount of money, but the cost and demerit points should serve as a reminder while you adjust to the habit of driving within the speed limit.

After paying your debt to society, you can wake up each day and know that you did what a decent, honest, law-abiding grown up would do: you accepted the consequences of your actions, and moved on.

Or you could follow the tricks given by a mob of anti-authority liars who want you to go into court and dishonour yourself and your family's name, commit the crime of perjury, and heap insults on innocent law enforcement people. At best, all this disrespectful behavior will save you a few hundred dollars. Isn't your dignity and self-respect worth more than $335?
You must be new here. This site is full of smug, pompous self entitled sociopaths. The problem here is not that the OP got caught speeding and has even admitted to the offense and is prepared to lie in court and make a mockery of the system. ONT system is seriously flawed.

None of this would fly in Quebec and the officers never show up in court either. And your disclosure will be in French, too bad for you if don't understand it, good luck getting it translated and the calibration of the radar/laser/ BS doesn't fly here either. I've yet to meet anyone who has beaten a speeding ticket or any legit ticket in QC and this is the way it should be, not that I know many people who bothered to fight them.

The problem lies in the system in Ontario which is a total joke. The thought that a legit ticket can get thrown out because OP is trying to smear a cop who issued a legit ticket, looking for a 't' that wasn't crossed or that the cop doesn't know how to use his equipment is laughable. I haven't gotten many tickets in my life but the ones I've got and the ones that were issued while I was a passenger in someone else car, the infractions were committed, the tickets deserved and 100% legit.
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SurplusPlus wrote:
May 11th, 2014 7:34 pm
Look up "ad hominem attack". With maturity, you may learn to discuss and argue the topic, instead of insulting people.

While someone certainly does have the "right" to examine evidence against them, the OP already knows what happened and has confessed it.

Many "ticket buster" types here want to propose dishonest and dishonourable methods of weaseling out of tickets. To an extent, they are free to preach their tactics of lying and trying to discredit innocent people (although it does tread dangerously close to counseling someone to commit a crime).

But I'm equally if not more free to propose an the alternative approach of being a reasonable, rational, mature, and honest citizen - and that includes accepting the consequences of one's mistakes.

It says a lot about your character that you would attack someone just because they raise the idea of being honest and taking responsibility.
Congratulation's you stayed awake in English class. I will try this one more time and them i`m done. The op has admitted to driving with the flow of traffic 80-90 kph the police officer wrote him a ticket for 105 kph he does not believe he was going 105 kph so his right is to go to court and see what evidence the police officer has. I should have been clearer to the op s telling him not to listen to the other poster`s that want him to lie and use absurd tactics. If you read back to your other post`s I will try to teach you what maturity is and I quote "Do you want my secret methodology? Lean close to the screen, so I can whisper it to you." You should practice what you preach. I am also going to take the mature high road and let you have the last post. I have helped op as far as I can and to continue back and forth with you is a waste of my time. You sir get the last post
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