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Can a Canadian blacklisted phone be used in US?

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Can a Canadian blacklisted phone be used in US?

Let's say if I lost my phone in the states and I reported to my carrier, will it be blacklisted in the states too? What if my carrier is wind?
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The Canadian carriers are a part of the [C]EIR/IMEI database. As members, they will submit their stolen IMEIs to the international list and will respect the international list. The US carriers just integrated with this same international system a week or two ago.

Best answer is that it won't work but you won't really know until you try.
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I read somewhere that wind or maybe it was mobi wasn't participating in the national database. And yes the database was supposed to be international but not sure if it is live yet.
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I heard the news days it's going to be inspirational. but But on the website it only states it's a national blacklist. So should I feel report to Att or tmobile too?
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It's supposed to be world wide with more than 67 countries participating in the blacklist database no? It will still make a wonderful iPod MP3 and camera so the thefts of smartphones will not stop.
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OK I just called Att and got confirmed that it's not blocked. So I guess the whole blacklist idea is to prevent people buying used phones to boost cell companies and carriers sales.
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remember only cmda phone that can only be blacklisted and cannot be activate without imei celphone that uses simcard even if its stolen as long its unlcoked it will work anywhere

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if your phone is blackisted in Canada it will work in USA or any other country outside Canada,
Blacklist is mostly National, not international service. each country have their own national blacklist database. secondly if your network and device is from lets say rogers and you travel to usa lost the device, you can only call rogers to blacklist it, att or t-mobile cannot be able to do that for you because you do not have account with them and the device is not on their database. even if the device is activated on their network it has to be the person who activated it that is registered to and should be able to blacklist it on that network.

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debrightone wrote:
Dec 9th, 2013 7:59 pm
if your phone is blackisted in Canada it will work in USA or any other country outside Canada,
Blacklist is mostly National, not international service. each country have their own national blacklist database. secondly if your network and device is from lets say rogers and you travel to usa lost the device, you can only call rogers to blacklist it, att or t-mobile cannot be able to do that for you because you do not have account with them and the device is not on their database. even if the device is activated on their network it has to be the person who activated it that is registered to and should be able to blacklist it on that network.

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Completely incorrect.
http://cwta.ca/blog/2013/09/30/canadas- ... blacklist/
Canada’s Wireless Industry Launches National Stolen Device Blacklist
New consumer look-up service will help Canadians protect themselves from purchasing pre-owned devices reported as lost or stolen

OTTAWA – September 30, 2013 – The Canadian Wireless Telecommunications Association (CWTA) and its wireless carrier members today announced the launch of a national blacklist of wireless devices that have been reported as lost or stolen. As announced last fall, Canada’s wireless carriers committed to implementing the blacklist to assist law enforcement agencies with their efforts to combat the theft of wireless devices.

Beginning today, the authorization of any GSM, HSPA, HSPA+ or LTE wireless device on any participating Canadian carrier’s network will include verification that the IMEI (International Mobile Equipment Identity) number of the device has not been reported as lost or stolen on that network or any other participating Canadian network as of September 30, 2013. The blacklist will also include devices that have been reported as lost or stolen by US carriers that are connected to the GSMA IMEI Database.

“Canadians are among the world’s fastest adopters and heaviest users of sophisticated smartphones,” said CWTA President & CEO Bernard Lord. “Not only will this national blacklist help to make their smartphones a less valuable target for criminals, but the industry has also taken steps to help Canadian consumers identify if a pre-owned device has previously been reported as lost or stolen.”

To help protect Canadians when purchasing a wireless device from a private source, the ProtectYourData.ca Web site now features a convenient tool that allows Canadian consumers to simply enter the IMEI number of a wireless device to find out immediately if that device has been blacklisted in Canada. If the IMEI number has been blacklisted, that device will not be able to be used on any participating Canadian network. The consumer look-up feature, the first of its kind in the world that utilizes the GSMA IMEI Database, will include blacklisted devices that have been reported as lost or stolen as of September 30, 2013 and beyond.

“On behalf of the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police (CACP), I would like to commend the CWTA and its members for their rapid response to implement this much needed public safety tool,” said CACP President Chief Constable Jim Chu. “Less than a year ago, we identified to the CWTA the seriousness of cellphone theft and the associated violent crime which was of growing concern to law enforcement and communities throughout Canada. This important action by the industry will have a direct impact on reducing this gratuitous crime.”

ProtectYourData.ca is also a hub of information where visitors can find numerous resources about the critical importance of protecting the data on their smartphones, as well as how to help protect themselves from becoming a victim of device theft.

It is imperative that customers contact their service provider to immediately report a lost or stolen phone to have their device deactivated. It is only when the device has been reported that the service provider can then add the device to the blacklist. All instances of personal theft should of course be reported to local law enforcement as well.

Protect Your Data. Protect Yourself. is an industry-led initiative designed to help ensure that Canadian wireless users have the information they need to keep their personal information safe and secure, and to promote the safe use of wireless devices.

Canadian Wireless Telecommunications Association (CWTA)
CWTA is the authority on wireless issues, developments and trends in Canada. It represents cellular, PCS, messaging, mobile radio, fixed wireless and mobile satellite carriers as well as companies that develop and produce products and services for the industry. (www.cwta.ca)

Media information:
Ashlee Smith, CWTA
613-233-4888 ext. 227
asmith@cwta.ca

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BACKGROUNDER
GSMA IMEI Database


The GSMA maintains a unique system known as the IMEI Database (IMEI DB), which is a global central database containing basic information on the IMEI (International Mobile Equipment Identity) of millions of mobile devices that are in use across the world’s mobile networks. The IMEI is a 15-digit number that is used to identify a wireless device when it is used on a mobile phone network.

The IMEI DB also supports what is known as a “blacklist”. The blacklist is a list of IMEIs that are associated with mobile devices that should be denied service on mobile networks because they have been reported as lost, stolen, faulty or otherwise unsuitable for use. The IMEI DB acts as a central system for network operators to share their individual blacklists, making it possible to prevent devices denied service (blacklisted) by one network from working on other networks even if the SIM card in the device is changed.

For more information about the GSMA IMEI Database, visit: http://www.gsma.com/technicalprojects/f ... i-database.
The only reason to expect a blocked phone to work in the US or on other member carriers is the time needed for the IMEI to propagate through the carriers' systems.
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