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Canada Post workers vote in favour of strike action

Postal workers across the country have given the green light to their union to call a strike and could walk off the job before the end of the month.

Members of the Canadian Union of Postal Workers voted overwhelmingly in favour of job action in polling that wrapped up Sunday.

CUPW says nearly 94 per cent of urban letter and parcel carriers approved a possible strike while almost 96 per cent of rural and suburban carriers signalled their willingness to walk off the job.

Canada Post and CUPW have been negotiating separate contracts for urban and rural employees since late last year without success.

The union says it received offers from the Crown agency on Friday that were unacceptable to its members and the deadline for reaching a deal is September 26.
https://globalnews.ca/news/4441652/canada-post-strike/

Doesn't mean strike actions will take place but the blessing is given.
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They are whining constantly about their work conditions, whereas we that are not on the government's dime often do not get anything remotely as cushy. My sympathy is zero. All they deserve is a special bill to force them back to work. It's an essential service, and they are holding us as hostages. I pay every year for all this with my taxes and I want them to give me my money's worth. I fully support the government in making sure as little more of my money goes to them, seeing how their productivity is already abismally low.

I wouldn't be surprised if they purposefully slowed sorting and delivery of Aliexpress parcels as much as possible just out of spite for us.
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What are they whining about now? If it weren’t for e commerce they wouldn’t even have jobs anymore.

There are many other shipping options. This strike won’t affect me one bit, other than I won’t receive a bunch of junk mail that goes straight in the recycle bin
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Red_Army wrote:
Sep 11th, 2018 9:06 pm
What are they whining about now? If it weren’t for e commerce they wouldn’t even have jobs anymore.

There are many other shipping options. This strike won’t affect me one bit, other than I won’t receive a bunch of junk mail that goes straight in the recycle bin
Yea, for residential there it's less of an impact, but for businesses its a big problem. A lot of things are still done by mail (bills, cheques, documents) and there isn't an alternative to Canada Post for regular mail.
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I knew this thread would be full of whining about Canada Post, I was correct.
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Poutinesauce wrote:
Sep 11th, 2018 8:39 pm
They are whining constantly about their work conditions, whereas we that are not on the government's dime often do not get anything remotely as cushy. My sympathy is zero. All they deserve is a special bill to force them back to work. It's an essential service, and they are holding us as hostages. I pay every year for all this with my taxes and I want them to give me my money's worth.
Canada Post earned a profit of $74 million in 2017. It's a Crown Corporation that provides an essential service -- they ship to many addresses that the big American couriers don't because they're unprofitable, and they'll send a document across the country for as little as $1.

At the end of the day, the question is simple: Would you rather send billions of dollars a year to the USA so that companies like FedEx and UPS can provide extremely expensive parcel service while paying dismal wages to Canadian workers, or would you like to see more affordable delivery and 64,000 Canadians with jobs that pay living wages?
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Terrible service. I have no sympathy for them they can stay out forever as far as I'm concerned
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Red_Army wrote:
Sep 11th, 2018 9:32 pm
^^

Most people don’t realize this
Your tax dollars have nothing to do with them
Except for the $6 billion pension hole backed by Canadian tax payers.
Canada Post has also analyzed the composition of its labour costs and compared them to its competitors, and its subsidiary, Purolator. The analysis shows that Canada Post has the highest level of total wages and benefits, as well as the highest productive hourly rate (i.e., labour cost per hour worked), for both its “inside” sorting workforce and its “outside” delivery workforce. Following are some details:

Sorting/inside workers
Salary and benefits: Approximately 44 per cent higher than competitors
Labour rate per productive hour: Approximately 68% higher than competitors
Delivery/outside workers
Salary and benefits: Approximately 11 per cent higher than competitors
Labour rate per productive hour: Approximately 26% higher than competitors
Benefit costs at Canada Post are 60% higher than competitors. Benefits provided by Canada Post to its employees represent 40% of salary compared to 25% for competitors. Cost of the pension plan is responsible for the majority of this variance but other benefits, such as post-retirement benefits, also explain the difference.
https://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/examendep ... ng.html#a6

They don't have it too bad at the moment.
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peli33 wrote:
Sep 11th, 2018 9:53 pm
Except for the $6 billion pension hole backed by Canadian tax payers.



https://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/examendep ... ng.html#a6

They don't have it too bad at the moment.
This. I pay one way or another. Not only that, but I'm among all the suckers who will be liable to pay for their ponzi retirement scheme when they run out of options.

At the end of the day, it's a company that is dependent on the taxpayers, and that is also ACCOUNTABLE to taxpayers.

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Sep 11th, 2018 9:45 pm
Canada Post earned a profit of $74 million in 2017. It's a Crown Corporation that provides an essential service -- they ship to many addresses that the big American couriers don't because they're unprofitable, and they'll send a document across the country for as little as $1.

At the end of the day, the question is simple: Would you rather send billions of dollars a year to the USA so that companies like FedEx and UPS can provide extremely expensive parcel service while paying dismal wages to Canadian workers, or would you like to see more affordable delivery and 64,000 Canadians with jobs that pay living wages?
I would rather have them being paid what that type of work is actually worth on the market, not something that is artificially subsidized by people who have no say in the matter and who can only dream of such advantages. I would actually have them be paid wages in line with the average Joe's capacity to pay.

Ever thought that what UPS and FedEx pay might actually be more realistic, as to what blue collar work that requires no education or special skills is worth?

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Sep 11th, 2018 9:15 pm
Yea, for residential there it's less of an impact, but for businesses its a big problem. A lot of things are still done by mail (bills, cheques, documents) and there isn't an alternative to Canada Post for regular mail.
Imagine someone who is urgently waiting for a big check in the mail, or a provincial health card, and just after it is sent they start striking and the card is in limbo for weeks or more.

If they strike, many people will be in REAL trouble.

That's why taking a strike is simply holding ordinary people hostage. It will affect people who are among the most vulnerable and the least resourceful.
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jacnel wrote:
Sep 11th, 2018 9:39 pm
I knew this thread would be full of whining about Canada Post, I was correct.
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Red_Army wrote:
Sep 11th, 2018 9:06 pm
What are they whining about now? If it weren’t for e commerce they wouldn’t even have jobs anymore.
This time it's wage parity. The rural and urban carriers are getting quite different remuneration for doing what an arbitrator has already determined is the same work. Canada Post wants to keep it this way. CUPW wants the both the urban and rural carriers to be paid the same.

Oh, BTW. The rural carriers are mostly women. Urban carriers mostly men. You guess who's being paid less. I don't give blanket support to CUPW (or to any union for that matter) but CUPW has my full support this time.
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Kiraly wrote:
Sep 11th, 2018 10:45 pm
This time it's wage parity. The rural and urban carriers are getting quite different remuneration for doing what an arbitrator has already determined is the same work. Canada Post wants to keep it this way. CUPW wants the both the urban and rural carriers to be paid the same.

Oh, BTW. The rural carriers are mostly women. Urban carriers mostly men. You guess who's being paid less. I don't give blanket support to CUPW (or to any union for that matter) but CUPW has my full support this time.
Guess what, that's how society works. It's virtually everyone who doesn't work for the government and lives outside of big urban centers that earn smaller wages, simply because they generate less value in places with significantly lower human density. This is also countered by lowest cost of living.

Gee, why do you think wages are lower on Prince Edward Island than in Alberta, and so are housing prices? Unless what you want is a communist society?

Who do you think makes more profit for their employer? The guy who delivers parcels in downtown Montreal, or the one who works in Labrador?

Unions want to deny reality, live in their ivory towers, and have average Joes who make far less than them pay for it.

It's totally deceitful and a false dichotomy to portray this as a wage gap issue. It's not. It's simply reality!
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Why is this in SHOPPING category?? And terrible title if allowed. Stop with the politics.

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