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Canada Post workers vote in favour of strike action

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Rotating strike is better than a full strike. However, the situation will get worse once it hits Black Friday and Christmas parcel delivery deadline. I believe Canada Post's profit will go lower as the big online players already divert the majority of deliveries to other couriers. The CP management probably will get a less year-end bonus in this case and I believe that's one of the goals from CP staffs.
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Privatizing won't lead to lower prices. You can't get lower than a buck to mail a letter across this vast country. And their parcel rates are way lower than a private courier. Privatizing will just lead to them cherry picking the major markets and jacking up prices to send something to the more remote areas, if they service them at all. And by remote areas, I mean anything an hour drive outside of the biggest 15 or so cities. Germany is hardly an accurate comparable when you look at the size of our countries.
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Am I the only one who can't track anything? All I get is Canada location and 'Delivery may be delayed due to labour disruption'. No information whatsoever.

Also, Amazon has shipped my orders exclusively with Canada Post since the strikes started and used to only send probably 60-70% CP in the months prior... very irritating.
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I'm mostly annoyed by not knowing if my mailbox was empty because of the strike, or if there was just no mail for me that day.
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Thankfully, we're not very reliant on timely mail delivery, so although the rotating strikes are still annoying, they only have a limited effect on us.
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Rotating strike doesn’t bother me, I just don’t get mail for that one day. As long as it’s not a full on strike I’m ok with it.
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djeffery wrote:
Nov 8th, 2018 6:50 am
Privatizing won't lead to lower prices. You can't get lower than a buck to mail a letter across this vast country. And their parcel rates are way lower than a private courier.
Not always the case. In my experience FedEx ground can often beat CanadaPost's prices, provided you go to an official FedEx shipping office.
djeffery wrote:
Nov 8th, 2018 6:50 am
Privatizing will just lead to them cherry picking the major markets and jacking up prices to send something to the more remote areas, if they service them at all. And by remote areas, I mean anything an hour drive outside of the biggest 15 or so cities. Germany is hardly an accurate comparable when you look at the size of our countries.
Canada Post's parcel rates to ship outside of cities are already jacked up to absurd levels - see this example when this person on Reddit wanted to ship something to Northern Canada, and yes this IS Canada Post shipping:
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It's actually why I never buy the whole population-density argument as to why they charge so much. I don't believe privatization is the answer, but I do believe Canada Post needs serious reform. That's why I'm actually kind of on the side of the postal workers striking, to me the problems all stem from middle/upper management.
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I don't understand why Amazon is still using Canada Post during the disruption. I have an order stuck in Canada Post processing hell and I've just cancelled it.

Amazon are you listening, my Prime is up renewal. You aren't doing a good job convincing me to renew.
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TomRFD wrote:
Nov 8th, 2018 12:01 pm
I'm mostly annoyed by not knowing if my mailbox was empty because of the strike, or if there was just no mail for me that day.
There's one lady in an apartment building downtown Toronto that leaves a treat sized mars/twix etc in her mailbox, there's a little sticky note just inside the box that says something like 'enjoy the treat'. I met her one day and thanked her for her gesture. She told me it was partly to know if the postie had been or not. Not foolproof by any means and I'm not suggesting you do it. Just sayin.
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CanadaJimmy wrote:
Nov 8th, 2018 12:48 pm
Not always the case. In my experience FedEx ground can often beat CanadaPost's prices, provided you go to an official FedEx shipping office.

Canada Post's parcel rates to ship outside of cities are already jacked up to absurd levels - see this example when this person on Reddit wanted to ship something to Northern Canada, and yes this IS Canada Post shipping:
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It's actually why I never buy the whole population-density argument as to why they charge so much. I don't believe privatization is the answer, but I do believe Canada Post needs serious reform. That's why I'm actually kind of on the side of the postal workers striking, to me the problems all stem from middle/upper management.
This doesn't really argue what I said. You can't hold up an air shipment to some remote town a thousand miles from nowhere as an example of price gouging based on some false claim of population density. My statement was that we can't use the German example as a reason why privatizing Canada Post would work. Germany is half the size of Alberta and has almost 3 times the population of Canada. Of course population density factors in. Fedex Ground probably doesn't even offer service to Norman Wells. A private Canada Post wouldn't either. They would only offer service to where they can make the money and operate cheaply (meaning lots of deliveries in a small area).
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TomRFD wrote:
Nov 8th, 2018 12:01 pm
I'm mostly annoyed by not knowing if my mailbox was empty because of the strike, or if there was just no mail for me that day.
Hey I got one. But lots of flyers before that. Funny to see young poses delivering flyers all aorund but no mail. at last one mail after all.
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My last 3 shipments have all taken a week to move within the same city (Toronto) and they've been shipped by Xpresspost. This is honestly pretty frustrating since if there was a full strike I would know there's no delivery but now there's an undefined delivery timeframe.
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I think they should just close Canada Post all together. Move the parcel service as a "lower" service of (CP owned) Purolator. Get rid of daily mail. Surely the government can move all benefit related mail (EI, CPP, OAS, Welfare) to a direct deposit based system. I hate mail. Bills can be seen online. Flyers as well. It's better for the environment to save paper as well. The only mail I get (besides parcels) is ads anyways. This is 2018 folks. Start the transition now. It's a little extreme I know, but these strikes are getting frustrating. Canada Post has outlived it's usefulness.
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zappy312 wrote:
Nov 8th, 2018 9:26 pm
My last 3 shipments have all taken a week to move within the same city (Toronto) and they've been shipped by Xpresspost. This is honestly pretty frustrating since if there was a full strike I would know there's no delivery but now there's an undefined delivery timeframe.
That's normal I guess. Heck I get amazon shipment from Quebec next day. But within Toronto its one week for some reason.
My UK Sim card even came n 4 days. Its like I will deliver when I want attitude by CP. I like Amazon uber type delivery. Next day.
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