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Cap-and-Trade will add 4.3C/L to gas prices

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Conquistador wrote:
Jan 7th, 2017 12:51 am
It's funny how people can rationalize "pennies" here and there when the various levels of government continue to piss away billions of dollars. Where does it end and when do people finally decide that enough is enough?
The people wanted this...they voted for this.
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vkizzle wrote:
Jan 7th, 2017 12:54 am
The people wanted this...they voted for this.
Fwiw, carbon pricing wasn't an ON campaign issue in 2014 (nor privatizing Hydro, etc). Granted, with the government's track record, voters should have known better.

Fear of Hudak was worse than 'the devil you know', I guess. And, also fwiw, I think Hudak would be doing a poor job in different ways right now. He wasn't Premier material either.
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Jan 7th, 2017 1:32 pm
Fwiw, carbon pricing wasn't an ON campaign issue in 2014 (nor privatizing Hydro, etc). Granted, with the government's track record, voters should have known better.

Fear of Hudak was worse than 'the devil you know', I guess. And, also fwiw, I think Hudak would be doing a poor job in different ways right now. He wasn't Premier material either.
How bad any moron could do than Wynne. She is worse and Cons are still bogyman. This shiat the liberal supporters buy in Toronto is three much.
“There are some things money can’t buy, and for everything else there’s MasterCard. Well, get out your checkbooks ladies and gentlemen, because it seems like the entire liberal cabinet can be bought. TRUDEAU: I CAN’T BE BOUGHT...LMAO. Because its 2017
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apnayloags wrote:
Jan 4th, 2017 9:11 pm
Price at the pumps now 116.9cents per litre for regular.......
$1.069 at Ellesmere/Morningside PetroCan
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Mike15 wrote:
Jan 7th, 2017 1:32 pm
Fwiw, carbon pricing wasn't an ON campaign issue in 2014 (nor privatizing Hydro, etc). Granted, with the government's track record, voters should have known better.

Fear of Hudak was worse than 'the devil you know', I guess. And, also fwiw, I think Hudak would be doing a poor job in different ways right now. He wasn't Premier material either.
Nothing is worse that the Liberals. Kathleen Wynne was knee deep in the gas plant scam and she is knee deep in bribery and fiscal incompetence now.

Hudak had issues yes but I'm 100% sure Ontario power prices would not be where they are. there would be no carbon tax on gas and Ontario would not be sky high in debt if he was in power.
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george__ wrote:
Jan 6th, 2017 1:17 am
I feel bad for those that require 91 fuel ...
Don't - anyone can buy a car that takes regular. Most cars take regular.

Premium gas is usually for performance cars - you pay the price if you want that.
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kool1 wrote:
Jan 13th, 2017 4:19 pm
Nothing is worse that the Liberals. Kathleen Wynne was knee deep in the gas plant scam and she is knee deep in bribery and fiscal incompetence now.

Hudak had issues yes but I'm 100% sure Ontario power prices would not be where they are. there would be no carbon tax on gas and Ontario would not be sky high in debt if he was in power.
Wynne's not a good premier, and the book still needs to be thrown at the right people for the gas plant cancellation and documentation purge, as well as the Sudbury byelection matter.

Make no mistake though, even if Hudak had won in '11 (much less '14) Ontario was already sky high in debt. $236B in '11-12, $285B in '14-15. The deficit was $14B in McGuinty's final full year, and $11B in Wynne's election year. Absent a magic wand, Hudak couldn't have plugged those figures overnight.
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will they raise this even higher specially when they need money for everything/corruption?
canada has become the country with most incompetent govts as of late, feds and prov and local govts all included. It's like they just don't know how to run the country
the only thing they do is increase taxes on people
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Mike15 wrote:
Jan 13th, 2017 4:34 pm

Make no mistake though, even if Hudak had won in '11 (much less '14) Ontario was already sky high in debt. $236B in '11-12, $285B in '14-15. The deficit was $14B in McGuinty's final full year, and $11B in Wynne's election year. Absent a magic wand, Hudak couldn't have plugged those figures overnight.
The ONLY reason the deficit is coming down is massive asset sales like Ontario Hydro. Spending has ballooned and now we have carbon taxes and higher fees for everything to cover even more wasteful spending.

Hudak would have curbed spending and held taxes. That's the big difference. No quick answers no but we are going in the wrong direction and the province's growth is stifled by high taxes and power prices.
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kool1 wrote:
Jan 14th, 2017 2:33 pm
The ONLY reason the deficit is coming down is massive asset sales like Ontario Hydro. Spending has ballooned and now we have carbon taxes and higher fees for everything to cover even more wasteful spending.

Hudak would have curbed spending and held taxes
. That's the big difference. No quick answers no but we are going in the wrong direction and the province's growth is stifled by high taxes and power prices.
The PC party also would sell assets to raise money...

They leased the 407 ETR to balance the budget
http://prudentpress.com/politics/the-hi ... ince-pt-5/

Also they started the privatization of Ontario Hydro
http://prudentpress.com/politics/ontari ... atization/
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tk1000 wrote:
Jan 14th, 2017 7:03 pm
The PC party also would sell assets to raise money...

They leased the 407 ETR to balance the budget
http://prudentpress.com/politics/the-hi ... ince-pt-5/

Also they started the privatization of Ontario Hydro
http://prudentpress.com/politics/ontari ... atization/
The BIG difference is they wouldn't use the money to wastefully spend like Kathleen. The Conservative party has always pushed privatization - the Liberals only decided to do it because they ran out of more money to spend.

Would not be surprised if the LCBO is next when the Hydro money runs out. LOL.
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kool1 wrote:
Jan 16th, 2017 12:00 pm
The BIG difference is they wouldn't use the money to wastefully spend like Kathleen. The Conservative party has always pushed privatization - the Liberals only decided to do it because they ran out of more money to spend.

Would not be surprised if the LCBO is next when the Hydro money runs out. LOL.
Ya sell lcbo and toll the highway 401 just in Ontario lol that would about do it.
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Does this website bring transparency to Cap-And-Trade?

http://capntradetransparency.com/


from http://www.windsorsquare.ca/archives/20 ... rade/99035
In January, the provincial government of Kathleen Wynne introduced new taxes on gasoline and natural gas. However, most of the new charges are hidden in the price of the two commodities.

This has caused Energy Vantage to set up a new website. It is designed to help Ontarians interested in finding out how much Ontario’s so-called Cap-and-Trade program is costing them in additional heating and gasoline charges.

The website has been launched by Energy Vantage as a public service. The Toronto-based consulting firm specializing in supporting what it calls transformational energy change and solutions.

“It is regrettable that the Ontario Energy Board decided to bury these charges in the delivery line of the gas bills, despite its review of the overwhelming evidence that consumers want transparency over these costs,” Energy Vantage said in a news release.

The website also provides information about Ontario’s Cap-and-Trade plan, and ways in which consumers can reduce and use energy more wisely to reduce their overall energy costs.

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