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Carl’s Jr restaurants expanding to GTA | Toronto locations closing

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Thecheapindian wrote:
Feb 3rd, 2017 10:46 am
Canada's market is too shit and no fast food chain or retail store lasts, end of discussion
Canadians don't eat out as much (and not as much fast food) as Americans but plenty of success stories also. Popeye's are growing like crazy and killing KFC. A&W's are also popping up everywhere.

Just like Target, Carls and other US flops - you can't always just open and assume it's going to work like in Chicago or Miami. Many companies don't do their homework and they pay the price.
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kool1 wrote:
Feb 7th, 2017 8:54 am
Popeye's are growing like crazy and killing KFC.
They're not killing KFC. KFC is killing KFC. Quality keeps going down. Then they have meetings to discuss how to fix the problem. The solution? Merge with Taco Bell to save on rent...carry on with selling total slop.
KFC is killing KFC. Competition is just a small part of their problem for them.
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kool1 wrote:
Feb 7th, 2017 8:54 am
Canadians don't eat out as much (and not as much fast food) as Americans but plenty of success stories also. Popeye's are growing like crazy and killing KFC. A&W's are also popping up everywhere.

Just like Target, Carls and other US flops - you can't always just open and assume it's going to work like in Chicago or Miami. Many companies don't do their homework and they pay the price.
I couldn't agree with you more my friend. The other main problem is these chains in America are so cheap and cost a few dollars but in Canada they cost 2 to 3 times the price due to many factors like exchange rate, shipping etc. Also, the chains that are starting to come are all just the same burger joints and similar stores. Chipotle did great because it's almost the same price as the states and is pretty unique. Halal guys is starting to expand too and I feel like it is going to be a fail, because they are charging 2 to 3 times the price at the actual one forlikely lower quality food. It's a shame, it really is
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Thecheapindian wrote:
Feb 7th, 2017 9:54 am
I couldn't agree with you more my friend. The other main problem is these chains in America are so cheap and cost a few dollars but in Canada they cost 2 to 3 times the price due to many factors like exchange rate, shipping etc. Also, the chains that are starting to come are all just the same burger joints and similar stores. Chipotle did great because it's almost the same price as the states and is pretty unique. Halal guys is starting to expand too and I feel like it is going to be a fail, because they are charging 2 to 3 times the price at the actual one forlikely lower quality food. It's a shame, it really is
...and that's why McDonald's is a huge success. They have their own head office here. They use Alberta beef, not an American import...etc
If Carl's were to launch a head office in Canada and use Canadian beef, more/less use the States as little as possible, they'd cut costs down quite a bit, and maybe they'd only need to open one or two locations at a time instead of being forced to open 3 at a time.
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playnicee1 wrote:
Feb 7th, 2017 10:27 am
...and that's why McDonald's is a huge success. They have their own head office here. They use Alberta beef, not an American import...etc
If Carl's were to launch a head office in Canada and use Canadian beef, more/less use the States as little as possible, they'd cut costs down quite a bit, and maybe they'd only need to open one or two locations at a time instead of being forced to open 3 at a time.
It's not so much the head office as it is having strong local partners, competitive C$ pricing and a competent marketing company to deploy a new concept and brand to a market that is not aware of your product.

Carl's did none of that and their partner was obviously not great. Things like Canadian beef would have helped maybe. Only having 1-2 locations also hurt ya.
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playnicee1 wrote:
Feb 7th, 2017 9:20 am
They're not killing KFC. KFC is killing KFC. Quality keeps going down. Then they have meetings to discuss how to fix the problem. The solution? Merge with Taco Bell to save on rent...carry on with selling total slop.
KFC is killing KFC. Competition is just a small part of their problem for them.
LOL - true but if there was no Popeyes I would still go to KFC so they are definitely helping.

Taco Bell is key yes - all KFCs should have both. TacoBell is greatness.
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kool1 wrote:
Feb 7th, 2017 8:54 am
Canadians don't eat out as much (and not as much fast food) as Americans but plenty of success stories also. Popeye's are growing like crazy and killing KFC. A&W's are also popping up everywhere.

Just like Target, Carls and other US flops - you can't always just open and assume it's going to work like in Chicago or Miami. Many companies don't do their homework and they pay the price.
Carl's Jr is alive and doing very well in western Canada. Don't presume that since Carl's Jr pulled out of Ontario that it's dead in the water in Canada.

Carl's Jr just released a poutine burger. You should try it next time you're out west.
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Futbollfan wrote:
Mar 16th, 2017 11:48 am
Carl's Jr is alive and doing very well in western Canada. Don't presume that since Carl's Jr pulled out of Ontario that it's dead in the water in Canada.

Carl's Jr just released a poutine burger. You should try it next time you're out west.
I dont know about you but the locations ive been to are very much dead/ on there way out
Chilliwack bc location - super quiet, horrible service too i suspect on its way out
Vernon bc location - closed early this year/ late last year
kelowna bc- closed a few months ago too, and I believe this was first location in canada? or one of the first
kamloops bc- also closed now
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bryceton wrote:
Mar 16th, 2017 1:30 pm
I dont know about you but the locations ive been to are very much dead/ on there way out
Chilliwack bc location - super quiet, horrible service too i suspect on its way out
Vernon bc location - closed early this year/ late last year
kelowna bc- closed a few months ago too, and I believe this was first location in canada? or one of the first
kamloops bc- also closed now
The Carl's Jrs in Alberta are doing quite well. The ones in BC were closed because the franchise owner was in ill health, and not because of lack of business. They still plan on opening more Carl's Jrs in BC.
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Tried Carls Jr in the States and it's really nothing special.

Same thing with In n Out.
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gregv wrote:
Aug 23rd, 2017 10:31 am
'Disgusting behaviour' caught on video at fast food restaurant in Red Deer, Alta.
Carl's Jr. franchisee violated numerous Alberta food regulations

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/f ... -1.4250469
"During the barbecue sauce mixing video, a staffer goes as far as offering Webb a spoon — which his boss refuses and continues mixing with his hand and forearm, before scraping the accumulated barbecue sauce off his arm back into the container." Neutral Face
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umop wrote:
Mar 21st, 2017 4:36 am
Tried Carls Jr in the States and it's really nothing special.

Same thing with In n Out.
I haven't tried In n Out, but the way Americans rave about it I would expect something great.
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Chickinvic wrote:
Aug 25th, 2017 10:43 am
I haven't tried In n Out, but the way Americans rave about it I would expect something great.
The fries suck. The burgers are good -- mainly its very cheap and hence why people flock -- if the burgers were $8, I dunno if that many people would be there.

It's a good fresh burger for cheap... i dunno cost economics in Canada, but if someone decided "what the hell lets go for volume" and sacrificed some margins it may work.

I mean it depends, In n Out employees make good above average wages as well for fast food workers.. would the concept work in Toronto? I dunno.. no one has tried it..
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I miss Carl's so much... my fav fast food place.

I always dream of living in the American Southwest... have all the best stuff I love -- In n Out, Jack in the Box, Carl's Jr, Chick-Fil-A.

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