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CBC "news" highly disappointing - good alternative?

I used to be a loyal listener and viewer of CBC news but found that the instant the recent federal election was announced, a heavy bias came over them and now it seems that almost every single news story has a certain spin on it. It seems that only details supporting the messages they want us to hear are provided and in some cases some of the news that they give has been speculated as fabricated because no supporting evidence of what they are reporting is given.

Is there an objective news source for Canada out there somewhere? I am concerned that CBC is trying to "brainwash" followers politically without giving appropriate regard to responsible journalism and I find it nauseating and a waste of energy to watch. There may be a good opportunity here for someone to start reporting real news if there is no objective alternative.
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www.aljazeera.com

However, I still find CBC balanced and fair. Care to give any examples of the brainwashing and bias you're talking about?
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hugh_da_man wrote: www.aljazeera.com

However, I still find CBC balanced and fair. Care to give any examples of the brainwashing and bias you're talking about?
Without being too obvious, if you have been following their stories since the start of the election up until current day, you will notice that their stories are not so much about telling the news but about telling a perspective that they want you to hear or believe that support certain political beliefs or decisions. My understanding of news was that it should be reported accurately and objectively leaving listeners to decide for themselves the current state of affairs. I have been following RT.com for some time and find that on an international level, this helps balance things out with the North American news we get but as for Canada, you will find that many CBC stories have political bias if you compare what is being told to the political decisions of certain political parties. This bias seems to be getting progressively worse such that I can't actually listen to this news source with any credibility any more.
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choclover wrote: Is there an objective news source for Canada out there somewhere?
Nope, and that's not exclusive to Canada; there's no such thing as wholly objective news. Your best bet for getting information is reading from several sources and picking out the information. You could also choose the alt-news route though obviously you'd avoid cyber-rags like Salon, Alternet or Huffpo that are even worse than the MSM.

Personally I just read https://news.google.com/ to get the headlines and stay somewhat in touch.
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Fully agree with Chocolover. Most of their news are biased and they are reported giving only the side they want you to hear. It's like they have an internal agenda.

What's worse is that we are paying these so called journalists 1 billion from our own pockets. This was another thing I hoped Harper won. Hopefully (altough unlikely) he would've cut the subsidizing from our own pocket all together. Why are we paying 1 billion when there are plenty of other news channels that are doing just fine on their own. And I believe our new selfie PM will actually restore the budged to what Harper cut, so we pay even more.

These money could be used to subsidize Canada Post or something so they can do door-to-door delivery again, instead of some * news channel where there are plenty more where they are coming from
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Every news agency now is a propaganda outlet for one side or another. No one is 100% objective anymore ... thats why new ones financed by opposing sides are emerging to counter the predominant western - US sided "news" outlets.

Aljazeera, RT, the new chinese one I-forgot-the-name, countering the narratives and rhetorics from the western ones like CNN and BBC.

Vice news is also good since they do a lot of in-depth "in the field" reporting but definitively leaning "western" and not 100% objective either. PBS Frontline is in the same category.

your best bet is to listen to all sides of an issue to get the full picture. That's easier for us who lives in the "Western" sphere of propaganda since aljazeera and RT both have freely available streams.

CBC is of course leaning towards the western sided narrative for world news and leaning left in regards to national canadian news. The french-speaking affiliate Radio-Canada is even way way worse in their bias than CBC.
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WHITEMARKET wrote: Your best bet for getting information is reading from several sources and picking out the information.
+1

Zerohedge is a another good useful tool for that purpose. Pretty good news aggregator, forward thinking-out-of-the-box and drawing attention to the issues that quietly get silenced in the MSM.

Filling the void nicely for opposing views to the predominant narrative/rhetoric.
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Cbc probably spins the least, so if you want complelty unbalanced the news doesn't do it well. I think Cbc is Ok generally but they do showcase certain issues more than others.

I think TVO is really good with there current affairs "the agenda" as they show an issue from different perspectives but again that's not news its current affairs. But it's on YouTube so easy access.
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CBC, BBC are way too socialist. Many of the employees are left-leaning. That creates an imbalance and distorted reporting. The liberals owe CBC several seats.
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Cough wrote: CBC, BBC are way too socialist. Many of the employees are left-leaning. That creates an imbalance and distorted reporting. The liberals owe CBC several seats.
All the other media are owned by big corporations that support right winged interests. For the most part left leaning news isn't anti-science and evidence. That's what right leaning news is all about, hyperbole and fear mongering.
When was the last time CP24, CTV or global ever reported on price gouging by telecom?
The BBC is the prime example of what the CBC can be with more funding. People in England are far more engaged and informed than this country.
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Well CBC had a vested interest in the Liberal party winning, as it meant that they would get further funding to continue and expand.

If you want an echo chamber for the left: Toronto Star, CBC.

More centrist would probably be the Globe and Mail (to the left), National Post (slightly to the right).

And the only right wing sources are the Toronto Sun and Rebel.media.

You might want to catch them all and them balance it in your mind.
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[QUOTE]I think TVO is really good with there current affairs "the agenda" as they show an issue from different perspectives but again that's not news its current affairs.[/QUOTE]

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Swarez99 wrote: Cbc probably spins the least, so if you want complelty unbalanced the news doesn't do it well. I think Cbc is Ok generally but they do showcase certain issues more than others.

I think TVO is really good with there current affairs "the agenda" as they show an issue from different perspectives but again that's not news its current affairs. But it's on YouTube so easy access.
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Future303 wrote: Well CBC had a vested interest in the Liberal party winning, as it meant that they would get further funding to continue and expand.

If you want an echo chamber for the left: Toronto Star, CBC.

More centrist would probably be the Globe and Mail (to the left), National Post (slightly to the right).

And the only right wing sources are the Toronto Sun and Rebel.media.

You might want to catch them all and them balance it in your mind.
National post is not slightly to the right - it's right.
The sun is not right, it tells stories to people who can't come up with their own opinions.
The globe is right economically, Until anything bell is involved than its protect bell at all costs. If you go back when they were talking about new wireless carriers coming in they had story after story how Canada was fine in telecoms.

Our papers are pretty bad IMO.

+1 to TVO, it's really good but it's sensible, nuanced talk so it's different from anything else. I've given up on the news channels for actual news.

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