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Chevy Bolt...383km /charge for $30k plus

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Konowl wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 11:09 am
Me too. I drive 120km to work daily, half highway, which seems to be just out of range of most of the 30/33kw battery cars according to other owners unless I drive like a nanny and don't use the heat.
When you say 120km to work daily - do you mean 120km round trip, or 120km each way?
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joey003 wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 11:53 am
When you say 120km to work daily - do you mean 120km round trip, or 120km each way?
Round trip.
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Konowl wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 11:58 am
Round trip.
That's not bad. Even in my i3 with 33kWh (~28kWh usable) 120 is definitely possible at high speed with heat on. I bet the Bolt could make 2 round trips like that before needing a charge.
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joey003 wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 12:02 pm
That's not bad. Even in my i3 with 33kWh (~28kWh usable) 120 is definitely possible at high speed with heat on. I bet the Bolt could make 2 round trips like that before needing a charge.
Yeah that's what I love about the Bolt. But the Focus is so cheap now ugh.
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Konowl wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 12:12 pm
Yeah that's what I love about the Bolt. But the Focus is so cheap now ugh.
Lol - that's true too! Tough call.
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joey003 wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 12:02 pm
That's not bad. Even in my i3 with 33kWh (~28kWh usable) 120 is definitely possible at high speed with heat on. I bet the Bolt could make 2 round trips like that before needing a charge.
What kind of range did you see in the dead of winter?
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Konowl wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 12:21 pm
What kind of range did you see in the dead of winter?
Tough to say with so many variables - pre-conditioning, not always highway driving, charging more frequently, etc. But quite consistently the range when leaving in the morning and running heat would show 150-160km. It can be adjusted so much as well when changing HVAC, heat and driving mode. If I drove with heat and at highway speed consistently, I think it would be closer to 130-140km.
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joey003 wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 12:26 pm
Tough to say with so many variables - pre-conditioning, not always highway driving, charging more frequently, etc. But quite consistently the range when leaving in the morning and running heat would show 150-160km. It can be adjusted so much as well when changing HVAC, heat and driving mode. If I drove with heat and at highway speed consistently, I think it would be closer to 130-140km.
Damn that's close. I do have an ICE vehicle I could use on really cold days I guess.
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Konowl wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 1:22 pm
Damn that's close. I do have an ICE vehicle I could use on really cold days I guess.
That's what I do. Anything lower than -15C I go with my ICE car.

The pass two winters have been mild at most, so it may not be that big of an issue with the FFE.

The positives out weighs the negatives.
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Konowl wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 11:37 am
What was your range like in the Leaf in dead of winter (conditions etc).
I drive like a grandma so factor that into this.

Regular weather: 160KM
Winter weather: 140 KM
Very cold winter weather: 120-130km

I put the seat warmers on and the heated wheel sometimes and shut off heater to keep range going. I imagine with my 100km round trip commute this will become a non-issue with the bolt but i can update the thread with some results if you like
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Konowl wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 1:22 pm
Damn that's close. I do have an ICE vehicle I could use on really cold days I guess.
I saw there's a long FFE thread so I should post there instead. I'm not overly familiar with the Focus, but it does look like it's rated range is less than my car (quick search shows that it's a significantly heavier vehicle as well, so that likely plays a roll in it too).

If you do still have an ICE car around, then I would go for it.
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joey003 wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 6:02 pm
I saw there's a long FFE thread so I should post there instead. I'm not overly familiar with the Focus, but it does look like it's rated range is less than my car (quick search shows that it's a significantly heavier vehicle as well, so that likely plays a roll in it too).

If you do still have an ICE car around, then I would go for it.
What was the range on yours? Focus is 180 I believe
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Konowl wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 6:07 pm
What was the range on yours? Focus is 180 I believe
I believe the i3 is rated as 114 miles EPA (which is close to 183km - but that is very low) and as high as 300km on NEDC (which isn't quite realistic).

With mixed driving in regular weather I've been able to hit 250km. The range will steadily show upwards of 260+km during good weather. Full highway speed with AC during the summer I've been able to pull 200km before needing to charge.

I bring up the weight of the car as being significant as the i3 is ~2800lbs and the FFE shows ~3600lbs. With the same size battery I wonder what type of range it gets on average. Not a lot of the 2017s in the wild I guess?
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Range in winter is much less in my Smart ED compared to summer:
http://mysmartelectricdrive.blogspot.ca ... ences.html

If all I ever drove was a Smart ED, I'd think all EV's were like that. My wife's Tesla is different, if you pre-condition the car before you head out, winter trips can see slightly reduced range to summer for longer trips of 300 km. We see about 50 km lower range used to heat the cabin/battery pack in the winter, out of a total of 400 km range.

I wouldn't buy a short range EV considering all the new EV's with much greater range on the market now and coming within the next year!
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Mar 17th, 2017 1:30 am
Range in winter is much less in my Smart ED compared to summer:
http://mysmartelectricdrive.blogspot.ca ... ences.html

If all I ever drove was a Smart ED, I'd think all EV's were like that. My wife's Tesla is different, if you pre-condition the car before you head out, winter trips can see slightly reduced range to summer for longer trips of 300 km. We see about 50 km lower range used to heat the cabin/battery pack in the winter, out of a total of 400 km range.

I wouldn't buy a short range EV considering all the new EV's with much greater range on the market now and coming within the next year!
Thanks for sharing. So with your Smart, on the coldest days with full heat the range seems to be cut in half?

That's pretty impressive with the Tesla losing about 12.5% of range (when pre-conditioning).

With my i3 I really wish there was a heated steering wheel. On cold days I find I really only run heat to keep my hands warm. I feel like heated seat + wheel would be sufficient for most days to stay warm.

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