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Chief Saunders denies cover up - doesn't know why no investigation or why SIU not contacted

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picard12 wrote:
Jul 24th, 2017 11:24 am
this is the reason minorities don't trust cops. cops are just substituted version of legalized gang.
A black cop shot a white woman who had called them in Minnesota through the open window of his cruiser. Nobody screams racism there. Somebody shot a black cop in NY in cold blood where is BLM? This guy deserves to rot in jail but not all cops are bad.
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This is yet another reason I laugh when many naive ppl think there's fairness and democracy in this world. Just a relatively 'minor' incident (ofc not, but in relation to the wars and trillions of $$$ getting scammed throughout history) gets so much coverup and scandal, forgetaboutit.

Pretty disgusting stuff but sadly not surprised at all. Overpaid legalized gangsters. Feel sorry for the good cops trapped in this cesspool.
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webshark wrote:
Jul 26th, 2017 11:47 pm
A black cop shot a white woman who had called them in Minnesota through the open window of his cruiser. Nobody screams racism there. Somebody shot a black cop in NY in cold blood where is BLM? This guy deserves to rot in jail but not all cops are bad.
Because its not common for a black cop to shoot a white woman.

If black cops nationwide regularly targets white women/men THEN you can say its racism but this rarely happens.

Is it really that hard to understand?.

Racism is a huge problem with cops(not just with cops but with society) but another problem is just poor training/hiring and overall operation. You literally have the chiefs being accused of corruption and covering up the cover ups. This has been happening since I can remember. Julian Fantino was really really bad. Little has changed.

The only difference is these guys are getting a billion dollar budget and they still operate the same.
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webshark wrote:
Jul 26th, 2017 11:47 pm
A black cop shot a white woman who had called them in Minnesota through the open window of his cruiser. Nobody screams racism there. Somebody shot a black cop in NY in cold blood where is BLM? This guy deserves to rot in jail but not all cops are bad.
Sorry don't get your point and how it relates to this case.
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Piro21 wrote:
Jul 21st, 2017 10:16 am
How did he get suspended with pay for something he did off duty? I don't get workman's comp if I break my leg on my day off.
What a stupid comparison....
By law they have to pay him until the allegations are proved in court.
They obviously cannot allow him to return to his position as the charges are very serious, but they can't just cut off his pay before he is convicted of any crimes.
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dilligafeh wrote:
Jul 27th, 2017 10:03 am
What a stupid comparison....
By law they have to pay him until the allegations are proved in court.
They obviously cannot allow him to return to his position as the charges are very serious, but they can't just cut off his pay before he is convicted of any crimes.
Why? Why can't they do that? If he had literally any other job that's exactly what would happen to him.

He committed assault when he was off-duty and not functioning as a police officer. By law he was a civilian like everyone else. Why is he being treated like this is something he did on the job?
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Piro21 wrote:
Jul 27th, 2017 10:12 am
Why? Why can't they do that? If he had literally any other job that's exactly what would happen to him.

He committed assault when he was off-duty and not functioning as a police officer. By law he was a civilian like everyone else. Why is he being treated like this is something he did on the job?
Good sir, charges are pending and they're not in custody. If they worked at Pizza hut, they would either be allowed to work and earn their pay or suspended with pay until they are convicted if the company wants to avoid bad publicity. Legally they cannot be terminated for allegations and if they are, they can sue for wrongful dismissal and back pay.
Similar situation, look at the outcome when the company jumps the gun and terminates/suspends the employment illegally.
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There is a myth that Canadian cops are not racist. The only difference between them & the American cops is that they don't shoot the minority like dogs. But the rest of the attitude, mentality, abuse, & brutality towards black, brown & native people is the same.

If you are black or brown, and if you come in touch with a Peel cop in Mississauga or Brampton even for a minor stuff, you will know what racism is all about. Durham is another bad place if you are black or brown.

The amount of false charges filed by the Peel cops against blacks & browns in Peel region is legendary. All this because the cop wanted to go on a power trip, ego trip & was taking things personally instead of doing his job professionally & with integrity. They know its your word against theirs, and there are no consequences for them, when they try to ruin your life with trumped up & false charges.

Beat up a black guy with a steel pipe. Bones & face is broken. Eye is lost. Then cover up everything & then file false charges against the poor victim. Doesn't get any better than that.

Its not just the 2 thugs & internal affairs daddy, who are involved, lot more people are involved in this cover up. Many people in the corrupt brutality department, who are trying to hush this up either need to be fired or arrested for this cover up.
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Piro21 wrote:
Jul 27th, 2017 10:12 am
Why? Why can't they do that? If he had literally any other job that's exactly what would happen to him.

He committed assault when he was off-duty and not functioning as a police officer. By law he was a civilian like everyone else. Why is he being treated like this is something he did on the job?
Just a slight correction and don't take this as any means in support of this cop because I think he's guilty of this shit and deserves what he gets and probably more but a cop is technically a cop 24/7. If they see something major they are expected to stop and assist. If they don't and are caught they would face charges under the Police Services Act. He should be investigated as any other civilian but not by his friends. The OPP should really have a team of investigators that investigates cops from municipal police forces when it falls out of the SIU mandate.
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Piro21 wrote:
Jul 27th, 2017 10:12 am
Why? Why can't they do that? If he had literally any other job that's exactly what would happen to him.

He committed assault when he was off-duty and not functioning as a police officer. By law he was a civilian like everyone else. Why is he being treated like this is something he did on the job?
Because due to his training and work he is held to a higher standard, which is reasonable.

Ex1. If the off duty doctor poisons someone, which is proven, he/she will be held to a higher standard by the court,as opposed to a regular person would. This is due to doctors training and knowledge of human body and its interactions with various substances.

Ex2. If the person that has a martial arts training seriously hurts someone, even in self defense, the court will keep his/her training as being relevant to the case, as this training may enable the person to use his/her body as a weapon.
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Rogeredz wrote:
Jul 27th, 2017 11:38 am
Its not just the 2 thugs & internal affairs daddy, who are involved, lot more people are involved in this cover up. Many people in the corrupt brutality department, who are trying to hush this up either need to be fired or arrested for this cover up.
That's what I said earlier, this is most definitely a cover-up by all the cops associated with this. As I said, a brother in blue protecting other brothers in blue, just like criminals protecting fellow criminals. Miller is beat up, blind in one eye, but yet he was the one charged with assault. The accused (one being a cop) was not charged with anything until the SIU was contacted by the victim's lawyer. It's obvious that the Durham cops upon discovering the accused is a TPS cop, decided to file fake charges against the black guy and do nothing to the fellow cop. Also one has to consider the guy's father who is also a cop and liaison didn't do anything.
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Jul 27th, 2017 12:45 pm
That's what I said earlier, this is most definitely a cover-up by all the cops associated with this. As I said, a brother in blue protecting other brothers in blue, just like criminals protecting fellow criminals. Miller is beat up, blind in one eye, but yet he was the one charged with assault. The accused (one being a cop) was not charged with anything until the SIU was contacted by the victim's lawyer. It's obvious that the Durham cops upon discovering the accused is a TPS cop, decided to file fake charges against the black guy and do nothing to the fellow cop. Also one has to consider the guy's father who is also a cop and liaison didn't do anything.

What are you talking about...but but BLM Grinning Face
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This has to be the most disgusting and blatant case of systemic racism & brutality & corruption by the cops in Canada.

If this doesn't expose the racial bias cops in Canada have towards coloured minorities, nothing will.

The 2 thugs & the internal affairs Daddy is nothing, compared to the other cops & staff in the police department, who are trying to cover stuff up. Thugs in blue, protecting their own and not doing an unbiased investigation.

Racism & Police brutality especially in Peel ( Mississauga, Brampton ) & Durham (Ajax, Pickering, Oshawa, Whitby ) is a reality & a fact. The brown & black people have been saying this for years, but it all falls on deaf years. Hopefully something is done after this case.
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This case is actually worse than the Sammy Yatim murder by the thug James Forcillio.

When the Pig Forcillio goes to jail in October, that will be music to my ears and all decent law abiding people in Canada.

These 2 thugs & their internal affairs daddy pig should also be sent to jail. Plus all the others who tried to cover this up both in Toronto police & Durham police, need to be charged with Obstruction of justice. This is sickening.
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Chief Saunders is basically that Token black guy appointed by TPS to cover up their racism & to fool the public that the force is not racist. He is Uncle TOM .

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