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China parent neglect epidemic -- new law to force children to visit their parents

People often wonder about elderly street vendors in chinatown and markham... well they have to support themselves because their children tend to neglect their parents when they grow up, so the chinese government is taking steps to combat this phenomenon

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12130140
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No surprise. We also have a somewhat similar law here in Ontario.

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statut ... e.htm#BK38

Obligation of child to support parent

32. Every child who is not a minor has an obligation to provide support, in accordance with need, for his or her parent who has cared for or provided support for the child, to the extent that the child is capable of doing so. R.S.O. 1990, c. F.3, s. 32.
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Even if you have kids, they might move far away and rarely visit you.

Solution: hire a caregiver, nurse, butler, housekeeper
or live in old-age home, seniors residence.
PROTECT your pet from HOT SUN/HEAT. Dogs can die of heat stroke/dehydration=panting, fast breathing. Dogs need WATER, SHADE, COOL air
http://youtu.be/rYmk2jJZGdM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHgrrA1ERgo
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One time, I saw an elderly white woman in her wheelchair and her young, hired help caregiver.

The caregiver was rude and impatient while talking to the elderly lady.

Not easy being old- being dependent on caregivers at the seniors residence.
PROTECT your pet from HOT SUN/HEAT. Dogs can die of heat stroke/dehydration=panting, fast breathing. Dogs need WATER, SHADE, COOL air
http://youtu.be/rYmk2jJZGdM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHgrrA1ERgo
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xlc_88 wrote:
Jan 6th, 2011 10:39 pm
No surprise. We also have a somewhat similar law here in Ontario.

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statut ... e.htm#BK38

Obligation of child to support parent

32. Every child who is not a minor has an obligation to provide support, in accordance with need, for his or her parent who has cared for or provided support for the child, to the extent that the child is capable of doing so. R.S.O. 1990, c. F.3, s. 32.

It would be great if this law was actually enforced, so that we wouldn't have to support seniors with our tax dollars
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Yea peeps forget about the old in society. What happened to respecting the elderly? All we do is dump our parents at a seniors residents and visit them once a yr. I've seen some peeps show up in the seniors home only to find out that their parent has either died or moved elsewhere. So sad.

Also they wiped your butt when you couldn't so its now time for you to help them wipe theirs when they can't. This is only fair, so remember to do it for them when they get old.
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cheapmeister wrote:
Jan 7th, 2011 7:08 pm
Yea peeps forget about the old in society. What happened to respecting the elderly? All we do is dump our parents at a seniors residents and visit them once a yr. I've seen some peeps show up in the seniors home only to find out that their parent has either died or moved elsewhere. So sad.

Also they wiped your butt when you couldn't so its now time for you to help them wipe theirs when they can't. This is only fair, so remember to do it for them when they get old.
My grandparents came to Canada from England and Poland. They returned only a handful of times to visit their parents.
My mother came to Ottawa from Newfoundland. She only returned a handful of times to visit her parents.
I'm currently in Vancouver and seldom return to Ottawa to visit my parents.

I'm from a family that has moved to pursue job opportunities leaving family behind only to seldom see them again. My family is far from alone in this, hell our country was built by people who left their families behind to immigrate here during times when returning for visits was not nearly as time/cost effective as it is today.

Add to this that my grandparents lived into their early 70s, my parents will make early 80s, and I will probably make late 80s, while the retirement age has stayed at 65. This means my children might have to care for me longer in old age than I will for them. Kinda sad, maybe the government will enact "Quietus", anyone who's read the novel The Children of Men will get the reference.
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ubn123 wrote:
Jan 6th, 2011 10:32 pm
People often wonder about elderly street vendors in chinatown and markham... well they have to support themselves because their children tend to neglect their parents when they grow up, so the chinese government is taking steps to combat this phenomenon
You rarely or never see elderly street vendors in Markham.

In Canada, elderly people receive money from the Canadian government
- Old Age Pension plus Guaranteed Income Supplement for low income seniors

Old Chinese people in Canada don't have to work
but some do because they like to work
- they get out of the house, feel useful and socialize with people
- otherwise, they would be home alone and no one to talk to

There was this old, retired white doctor who had retired from his hospital job.
But the hospital needed him so they phoned him and asked him to come back to work. So he did. He went to India for vacation. Unfortunately, he got killed in a terrorist attack.
PROTECT your pet from HOT SUN/HEAT. Dogs can die of heat stroke/dehydration=panting, fast breathing. Dogs need WATER, SHADE, COOL air
http://youtu.be/rYmk2jJZGdM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHgrrA1ERgo
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jaxx lite wrote:
Jan 7th, 2011 10:17 pm
You rarely or never see elderly street vendors in Markham.

In Canada, elderly people receive money from the Canadian government
- Old Age Pension plus Guaranteed Income Supplement for low income seniors

Old Chinese people in Canada don't have to work
but some do because they like to work
- they get out of the house, feel useful and socialize with people
- otherwise, they would be home alone and no one to talk to

There was this old, retired white doctor who had retired from his hospital job.
But the hospital needed him so they phoned him and asked him to come back to work. So he did. He went to India for vacation. Unfortunately, he got killed in a terrorist attack.

Old street vendors is nothing to be ashamed about... we should be encouraging old people to go back to work instead of relying on government pension. In fact the retirement age should be raised to at least 75... why do you think taxes are so high -- it all goes to old people.
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ubn123 wrote:
Jan 7th, 2011 11:08 pm
Old street vendors is nothing to be ashamed about... we should be encouraging old people to go back to work instead of relying on government pension. In fact the retirement age should be raised to at least 75... why do you think taxes are so high -- it all goes to old people.
Uhhh...you're going to be old one day too you know. How would you feel if our children raised the retirement age to at least 75 when we retire? Pushing back the retirement age 10 years is a little extreme. We have to think of alternate solutions because by the time the children of the boomers become of working age, we're going to have a crisis of not having enough funding for these pension plans.
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jaxx lite wrote:
Jan 6th, 2011 11:59 pm
Even if you have kids, they might move far away and rarely visit you.

Solution: hire a caregiver, nurse, butler, housekeeper
or live in old-age home, seniors residence.
jaxx lite wrote:
Jan 7th, 2011 12:06 am
One time, I saw an elderly white woman in her wheelchair and her young, hired help caregiver.

The caregiver was rude and impatient while talking to the elderly lady.

Not easy being old- being dependent on caregivers at the seniors residence.
I do not think many people factor in the expense of hiring a caregiver in their retirement savings plan. Have you?
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jaxx lite wrote:
Jan 7th, 2011 10:17 pm

Old Chinese people in Canada don't have to work
but some do because they like to work
- they get out of the house, feel useful and socialize with people
- otherwise, they would be home alone and no one to talk to
Wel, if they have the physical means and otherwise to ' get out of the house ' but choose to be ' home alone and no one to talk to ' - then they have no one to blame but themselves.
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