Chinese discover backdoor into Canada — through Quebec

[DearSummer]

[B]Chinese discover backdoor into Canada — through Quebec[/B]
[url]http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1148993--chinese-discover-backdoor-into-canada-through-quebec?bn=1[/url]

[quote]Chinese desperate to emigrate have discovered a backdoor into Canada that involves applying for entry into the country’s francophone province of Quebec — as long as they have a good working knowledge of the local lingo.

So, while learning French as an additional language is losing ground in many parts of the world — even as Mandarin classes proliferate because of China’s rise on the international stage — many Chinese are busy learning how to say, “Bonjour, je m’appelle Zhang.”[/quote]
[quote]The province selects its own immigrants and doesn’t have any cap or backlog of applicants like Canada’s national program does. But it requires most immigrants to demonstrate their knowledge of French.

Immigration agencies in Beijing started pushing this program over the past year, telling people, “this is the only way out, there’s no other way,” said Quebec-based immigration consultant Joyce Li.

These transplants must commit to living in Quebec in their application, but, later on, they can take advantage of Canadian rights to move to Toronto or Vancouver, which most investor-emigrants do, she said.[/quote]

Why should Quebec have their own immigration policy that trumps the Federal one? Quebec's continual disregard for Canada at a national level is quite disgusting.

[stealth]

[QUOTE=DearSummer;14450656][B]Chinese discover backdoor into Canada — through Quebec[/B]
[url]http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1148993--chinese-discover-backdoor-into-canada-through-quebec?bn=1[/url]




Why should Quebec have their own immigration policy that trumps the Federal one? Quebec's continual disregard for Canada at a national level is quite disgusting.[/QUOTE]

I actually would be ok with this, if there were a way to enforce a requirement of minimal residency term in Quebec, and then have to "apply" to move elsewhere in the country. if you want to act like a separate country, own it all the way.
But alas, this is not the case.

[Thai]

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[gman]

[QUOTE=DearSummer;14450656][B]Chinese discover backdoor into Canada — through Quebec[/B]
[url]http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1148993--chinese-discover-backdoor-into-canada-through-quebec?bn=1[/url]
Why should Quebec have their own immigration policy that trumps the Federal one? Quebec's continual disregard for Canada at a national level is quite disgusting.[/QUOTE]

Are you kidding me? Toronto Star called that "news". Something they have just discovered? Quebec has been the gateway to come to Canada for over 3 decades already.

[Hairball]

*gets out the popcorn*

But this is really no different than the other provinces which also have provincial nominee programs. I guess the Quebec program has more autonomy than the other provinces. But of course you're expected to speak French in Quebec, what is the real problem?

[studolf]

So let me get this right; Quebec doesn't care whether these people have any job ready skills or speak English? As long as they speak french, they have a ticket to Canada. Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

Most companies don't care whether you speak french, except for a few government jobs. If these immigrants can't find jobs, are tax payers gone pay to teach them English as well?

[gman]

[QUOTE=studolf;14450929]So let me get this right; Quebec doesn't care whether these people have any job ready skills or speak English? As long as they speak french, they have a ticket to Canada. Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

[B]Most companies don't care whether you speak french[/B], except for a few government jobs. If these immigrants can't find jobs, are tax payers gone pay to teach them English as well?[/QUOTE]

Many companies in Quebec care.

[Kingmoo]

This will probably turn into a "Quebec sucks" thread.

I'm OK with that...

[manixc]

This is news? I thought this is common knowledge. Immigrants (not just Chinese) go thru Quebec than move as soon as possible to other parts of the country.

[rockinthesuburbs]

hey, knowledge is power, friends.

[Kingmoo]

[QUOTE=Kingmoo;14450996]This will probably turn into a "Quebec sucks" thread.

I'm OK with that...[/QUOTE]

BTW this is not news. Immigrants are Quebec's biggest export

[ji2o0k]

Clay Aiken also discovered the "backdoor" and has been lovin' it for many years now!

Or so I have heard....lol!

[divx]

Either those people are really desperate or our country is just that awesome, they are willing to learn 2 new languages just to get in. :razz:

[olssy]

[QUOTE=DearSummer;14450656][B]Chinese discover backdoor into Canada — through Quebec[/B]
[url]http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1148993--chinese-discover-backdoor-into-canada-through-quebec?bn=1[/url]




Why should Quebec have their own immigration policy that trumps the Federal one? Quebec's continual disregard for Canada at a national level is quite disgusting.[/QUOTE]

Sounds more like The Star had some space to fill. There isn't a huge influx of Chinese immigrants in Quebec, all of Asia accounts for about 28% of new immigrants in 2011 for Quebec. They also don't get in automatically when they speak french, this is the point chart for immigration into Quebec:

Training Up to 28 points (Cutoff Score = 2 points)
Validated Employment Offer Up to 10 points
Work Experience Up to 8 points
Age Up to 16 points
Language Proficiency Up to 22 points
Stay and Family in Quebec Up to 8 points
Spouse's Characteristics Up to 16 points
Children Up to 8 points
Financial Self-Sufficiency 1 point (Cutoff Score = 1)

A single applicant must score over 49 points.

Some more statistics from 2011:
About 36% of new immigrants don't speak french when they arrive.
About 20% speak neither french nor English.
27% are uni-lingual french.
37% speak both French and English
Over 35% of new immigrants were between ages 25 and 24.
70% are accepted as economic immigrants, 19% are coming to live with family members, 10% are refugees and about 1% are 'other'.
Approximately 52500 people immigrated to Quebec in 2011 of which 74% were selected by Quebec.
In 2011 Quebec welcomed around 5000 Haitians, 5000 Chinese, 4000 Algerians, 4000 Moroccans and 3200 French.

I couldn't find any statistics about how many Quebec immigrants move to another province and that would be really neat to know.

I really don't see how this can be seen as a back door to Canada as the province still has quotas and just applies extra points if you can speak french.

[Phoenix3434]

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