Chinese Gold Medalist told grandparents died a year ago after win

[laihama]

As far as the subject matter, I think it's disgraceful that the athlete was not told about her grandparents. I would be furious if someone did this to me.

As would most people, including the Chinese, under normal circumstances. You and I and many Canadians have a comfortable home, two cars in the drive way, enough family income to have disposable cash so we can enjoy life more, a pension/RRSP to not worry about depending on our children during our golden years,....etc. I don't think you and Shaner appreciate how important one Olympic performance is to this particular family. I also read in the news that there is a heated debate within Chinese forums about whether this was appropriate. Clearly, not all Chinese accept this.

Shaner, it will go over the heads of some so it begs the question, why even bother, although I'm glad you are bothering.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

[Shaner]

Two wrongs don't make a right.

I said it to prove a point. Whether I even believe what I wrote is irrelevant.

Can't stand hypocrites.

[vero95]

only those who never tried to achieve something seriuosly find this behaviour strange

[chickenbones]

This thread is worthless. The article is misleading. The original Chinese article says back in 2004 they once hid her grandparents death while she was competing. The mother hid her own "early stage" cancer while receiving treatment. Eventually she were told about it. I think any parent American, Italian or Chinese would have done the same. Considering the fact that she was around 16 years old. What the mother did is just to keep some weight off of her shoulders while she concentrates on training.

English article is just sensationalism.

Chinese article for those who cares.

http://2012.sina.com.cn/cn/aq/2012-0...13627247.shtml


Also states, the family stays in touch by reading her twitter. She came home unexpectedly one time to attend a meeting, only slept for a few hours and no one dared to talk to her to distract her. The family keeps their phone on 24 hours a day just in case she calls which is very rare. Oh and the whole family calls her "sister" not by name and she was sent to training camp in 1998 which makes her 12.

[zz000ter]

China’s child-fuelled medal machine keeps cranking out Olympic gold

Corporations use virtual child slavery for economic profit
Chinese government uses virtual child slavery for political profit

[chickenbones]

Which Corporation? American corporations who want to keep hefty margins?

Training is cruel for sure, but I don't think any olympic athlete had it easy, doesn't matter which country they are from.

China’s child-fuelled medal machine keeps cranking out Olympic gold

Corporations use virtual child slavery for economic profit
Chinese government uses virtual child slavery for political profit

[kingofwale]

Actually, the news article that I read says that it was the mother's decision to withhold the news. I'm sure you like to imagine that some Communist official held a gun to her head and told her to keep silent, but that just did not happen.

It's a private family matter. We are not to judge.

yep. just like it was the solo decision of the 4 badminton teams to lose... no outside influence from coaches, other team-mates, governing body whatsoever.

*sighs*, I can only wish this world is that naive. a shot from "The Star"

[ji2o0k]

"Heartless"

[Chorus (Acapella):]
In the night, I hear them talk the coldest story ever told
Somewhere far along this road, he lost his soul
To a woman so heartless [echoes 3X]
How could you be so heartless [echoes 3X]
Oh, how could you be so heartless?

[Verse 1]
How could you be so cold as the winter wind when it breeze yo
Just remember that you talking to me though
You need to watch the way you talking to me yo
I mean after all the things that we been through
I mean after all the things we got into
Ayo, I know there are some things that you ain't told me
Ayo, I did some things but that's the old me
And now you wanna get me back and you gonna show me
So you walk around like you don't know me
You got a new friend, well I got homies
But in the end it's still so lonely

[Chorus]

[Verse 2]
How could you be so Dr. Evil?
You bringing out a side of me that I don't know
I decided we weren't gonna speak so
Why we up 3 A.M. on the phone?
Why would she be so mad at me for?
Homie I don't know she's hot and cold
I won't stop wont mess my groove up
Cause I already know how this thing go
You run and tell your friends that you're leaving me
They say that they don't see what you see in me
You wait a couple months then you gonna see
You'll never find nobody better than me

[Chorus]

[Verse 3]
Talking talking talking talk
Baby lets just knock it off
They don't know what we been through
They don't know about me and you
So why I got something new to see?
And you just gonna keep hating me
And we just gonna be enemies
I know you can't believe
I could just leave it wrong
And you can't make it right
I'm gonna take off tonight (Into the night)

[ji2o0k]

yep. just like it was the solo decision of the 4 badminton teams to lose... no outside influence from coaches, other team-mates, governing body whatsoever.

*sighs*, I can only wish this world is that naive. a shot from "The Star"

you do realize that any candidate that fails to qualify for the olympics is then put into the "Secret Ninja Assassin society"....and trained to be a ninja assassin...

Hence why the Chinese have such great bodyguards for their high ranking officials and covert agents to carry out dastardly duties across the world....

Actually the Olympic pipeline into the Ninja society is ingenius IMO......win-win for everyone!

**well except for the targets of the Chinese government....they die a horrible death by a thousand finger method....**

[chickenbones]

No doubt it's hard work, but do you think there are no training camps in America, Japan, Russia? The American team dominated gymnastics, do you think for a second that those athelete didn't work just as hard as those Chinese kids in the picture?

yep. just like it was the solo decision of the 4 badminton teams to lose... no outside influence from coaches, other team-mates, governing body whatsoever.

*sighs*, I can only wish this world is that naive. a shot from "The Star"

[laihama]

yep. just like it was the solo decision of the 4 badminton teams to lose... no outside influence from coaches, other team-mates, governing body whatsoever.

It seems you are one of those people who thinks that a gun was held to her head. As evidenced by some comments here and in message boards in China, some people can understand why such a decision was made. But I guess you are going to keep putting your hands over your ears and insist that bad evil Commies were involved.

*sighs*, I can only wish this world is that naive. a shot from "The Star"

The Toronto Star: The King of Sensationalism

[deltone]

As would most people, including the Chinese, under normal circumstances. You and I and many Canadians have a comfortable home, two cars in the drive way, enough family income to have disposable cash so we can enjoy life more, a pension/RRSP to not worry about depending on our children during our golden years,....etc. I don't think you and Shaner appreciate how important one Olympic performance is to this particular family. I also read in the news that there is a heated debate within Chinese forums about whether this was appropriate. Clearly, not all Chinese accept this.


Two wrongs don't make a right.

You are missing the point Shaner was trying to make. In no way do I believe he truly believes that "Chinese are heartless". I've read enough of his posts to know this isn't what he would write, unless he was trying to make a point and his point was very well made. Many times posts are made about Americans and those posts go completely unchallenged and ignored, thus showing that they are acceptable by the majority of posters. Now, make one negative post about the Chinese and watch out. THAT was the point he was "trying" to make but of course it has gone over the heads of most.

I said it to prove a point. Whether I even believe what I wrote is irrelevant.

Can't stand hypocrites.

Exactly.

only those who never tried to achieve something seriuosly find this behaviour strange

LOL, ya, this coming from you.

[kingofwale]

No doubt it's hard work, but do you think there are no training camps in America, Japan, Russia? The American team dominated gymnastics, do you think for a second that those athelete didn't work just as hard as those Chinese kids in the picture?

well, the only picture i've seen an American baby dangling that high off the ground is this...


those pictures just borderline child-abuse... Of course, not that Chinese human right record is anything to write home about

[sandikosh]

When you can't win, make excuses. If you can't find an excuse, criticise!

[zz000ter]

The question is "win at what cost"?

Similar to the question "profit at what cost"

Part of being human and humanity is that many things are possible - "but at what cost"?