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Jun 10, 2009
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computer upgrade advice

this computer is getting pretty old starting to have difficulty to play game at 60fps which was fine for me before..wondering if changing ddr3 1600 to 2400 16gig to 32gig(cost about 200$) would improve enough because i watched some youtube video saying these days memory for gaming need more hz or its just a waste of time and i directly should upgrade new cpu mobo and ram of last generation and keep the rest of my hardware which is not bad i think(no real budget it go on my credit card doing consolidation debt after that).. i read that amd is problematic with memory so not sure where to go with that, i've been out of computer hardware news for a while so would need help if to switch to a new system

thx

here is my system spec on idle i can had also a third gtx 970

Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i5 2500K @ 3.30GHz 47 °C
Sandy Bridge 32nm Technology
RAM
16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 802MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd. Z68X-UD3H-B3 (Intel Core i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz)but i oc to 4.3ghz 37 °C
Graphics
VA32AQ (2560x1440@59Hz)
E2442 (1920x1080@60Hz)
4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 (MSI) 45 °C
4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 (ZOTAC International) 43 °C
ForceWare version: 425.31
SLI Enabled
Storage
1863GB Hitachi HUA722020ALA331 ATA Device (SATA ) 42 °C
465GB Crucial CT500BX100SSD1 (SATA (SSD)) 36 °C
Power supply 1000 watts modular
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That is a pretty old system, adding more RAM will not boost performance, especially if you already have 16 GB and your sole use case is for games. The CPU or GPU is probably where your bottleneck is coming from.
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Faster ram only benefits newest Ryzen CPU. and 16gb is already plenty.
You might be currently limited by the 4gb of your 970s if you're playing at 1440p. I'd start looking at a new CPU/MOBO/RAM combo
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bauness wrote:
Apr 15th, 2019 4:55 pm
wondering if changing ddr3 1600 to 2400 16gig to 32gig(cost about 200$) would improve enough
Very few users will benefit from 32GB of RAM.
It's also not worth it to upgrade solely for speed.
If by chance you do need 32GB (Hint: You probably don't) you may as well get faster stuff.
[OP]
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ok need a new system, i used to buy my stuff at ncix..where you guy are shopping now for cpu mobo combo? newegg?
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Just need new video card for 1440p gaming at 60fps+. Should be able to get it done with 1660Ti/1070 or better. Can always just try new gpu first since you'll get one anyways.... if that doesn't satisfy you, go for a the rest of the system.
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newegg amazon memoryexpress is where most people get their parts now, sometimes ebay, but then it would be newegg store. if you want to go to brick and motar store there is canadacomputers.

ryzen 2600/2700 is what you are looking for, 16gb ddr4 minimum. 500gb ssd nvme pciex4. possibly get vega56.
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1. CPU needs an upgrade as the AAA games have started to use more multi-core performance.
Higher speed RAM is the benefit, doubling from 16GB to 32GB will not do much, as 16GB is the current max target for games.
2. GPU memory is the limit, having three 970's will mean you still only have 4GB usable which limits your textures to low-med quality on high resolutions.
Plus SLI does not scale efficiently and is less supported by newer games now.
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[OP]
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Jun 10, 2009
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im already 50% bottleneck running a benchmark because of my cpu but yeah that an idea
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divx wrote:
Apr 15th, 2019 11:29 pm
newegg amazon memoryexpress is where most people get their parts now, sometimes ebay, but then it would be newegg store. if you want to go to brick and motar store there is canadacomputers.

ryzen 2600/2700 is what you are looking for, 16gb ddr4 minimum. 500gb ssd nvme pciex4. possibly get vega56.
looked at the ryzen 2600x which look decent so if i switch to amd better go with a single vega 56 than a 1600ti from the benchmark i saw i gain 20%

do you got yourself an amd build? motherboard tips to go with?
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i use an old intel chip, my pc is over 5 years old but it still runs okay. If I were to update this year it would be ryzen. Although I don't have a pressing need to upgrade my 4930k, ssd, 32gb ddr3, amd 580. no particular recommendation on am4 board, just get a decent one.
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bauness wrote:
Apr 15th, 2019 8:53 pm
ok need a new system, i used to buy my stuff at ncix..where you guy are shopping now for cpu mobo combo? newegg?
You can pick your parts using PC Partpicker. It looks up the lowest prices for each individual component. You can override the vendor if you wish. I just recently built two systems and the site was helpful. I am not an employee and do not have any affiliation with the site.
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If you are thinking about upgrading the GPU, I'd probably look at 10/16 series GPUs and 20 series if they are cheap. For CPU, I'd look at getting either 2nd gen Ryzen or if they are selling them at a low price, a 8/9th gen Coffee lake from Intel
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Figure out your bottleneck, and fix it.

Since you have a spare 970 laying around, might as well install it and see if it resolves your issues. Note: 3 of those cards can draw some serious juice, so be sure your PSU is up to the task. If the 3rd card fixes the "problem", then you can either run it that way, or replace all 3 with a card of equivalent processing power, which is the 2080/1080ti, meaning at least a $1,000 investment (new), or whatever you can find a 1080ti for used. Your 3x 970s are probably worth about $400.

If the 3rd card DOESN'T resolve your issues, you can get virtually any CPU made today, and it will be considerably faster than your current CPU: faster single core, faster multi-core, less heat, more cores in general. You'll need a motherboard, CPU, and RAM, since nothing you have is reusable, and your upgrade path with your current hardware is virtually non-existent (I believe a 3770K would fit, but you'd be gaining single-digit performance increases). You can build a wide range of systems, but the cheapest you're going to get for a "current" version of your hardware is probably about $450 (something like a Ryzen 2600, B450 board, 16GB of RAM ... or a i5-8400, B360, 16GB RAM). Your current hardware is probably worth $150.
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OP that entire boat anchor of a PC needs to be upgraded, but Ryzen is releasing the 3xxx series chips later in the year. If you want better performance than the 9900K at like half the cost, I would advise waiting a few months to see their lineup and pricing.

You've waited 6+ years, you can wait a few more months lol.

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