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Consumer Reports: Lexus tops Turbo Engine Reliability

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Consumer Reports: Lexus tops Turbo Engine Reliability

Just Lexus' 8AR-FTS (IS, NX, etc.) and not the V35A-FTS in the LS.

Troubles With Turbo Engine Reliability
CR's exclusive reliability data can point you to the brands and models you can depend on and those you should steer clear of
https://www.consumerreports.org/car-rel ... liability/


https://lexusenthusiast.com/forums/thre ... lity.4824/
Always true for Lexus. Most modern turbo engines aim at 25bar BMEP and 100kw/L specific output but Lexus tragets 90% of these values, it should be no surprise they are guanranteed an edge on reliability. It's not that they couldn't make competitive power; they choose to not make maximum power out of their engine.

And not surprised to see Mini at the bottom. A highly stressed turbo Inline-3 with 500cc/cyl, nothing could possibly go wrong right?
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No surprise there. Lexus has always been the "safe buy" luxury car.
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And in the same issue the Subaru Ascent topples the Toyota Highlander
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Modern Lexus and Toyotas are also super unpopular with tuners because their ECUs are super tough to crack. That helps with reliability too.

That said this list has Subaru, BMW and Audi ahead of the average, so I can only conclude this report is full of shit.
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tebore wrote: That said this list has Subaru, BMW and Audi ahead of the average, so I can only conclude this report is full of shit.
You must be one of the CR haters. Did they trash your car?

As for the turbos, I'm not surprised about the Chevy Malibu. I was considering one but was warned by two mechanic friends to stay away from their little 1.5 turbo engine. They have a short life span.
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tebore wrote: Modern Lexus and Toyotas are also super unpopular with tuners because their ECUs are super tough to crack. That helps with reliability too.

That said this list has Subaru, BMW and Audi ahead of the average, so I can only conclude this report is full of shit.
LOL I'm going to have to agree with this. FOS is right, come on BMW/Audi and Subaru at the top HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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alanbrenton wrote: Just Lexus' 8AR-FTS (IS, NX, etc.) and not the V35A-FTS in the LS.

Troubles With Turbo Engine Reliability
CR's exclusive reliability data can point you to the brands and models you can depend on and those you should steer clear of
https://www.consumerreports.org/car-rel ... liability/


https://lexusenthusiast.com/forums/thre ... lity.4824/
Always true for Lexus. Most modern turbo engines aim at 25bar BMEP and 100kw/L specific output but Lexus tragets 90% of these values, it should be no surprise they are guanranteed an edge on reliability. It's not that they couldn't make competitive power; they choose to not make maximum power out of their engine.

And not surprised to see Mini at the bottom. A highly stressed turbo Inline-3 with 500cc/cyl, nothing could possibly go wrong right?
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- How come Porsche and Audi can have engines that have better performance and as good reliability???

- CR also rates Honda's turbo engine better than ave. non turbo engine!?!
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- How come Porsche and Audi can have engines that have better performance and as good reliability???

- CR also rates Honda's turbo engine better than ave. non turbo engine!?!
I read the comments after the CR article and one pointed out that the result is based on actual cars they bought (or loaned) so it's possible they got better batches of Porsches and Audis and regular batches of VWs. :)
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And how can Lincoln be so much worse than Ford? They're the exact same engines.

And Audi reliable? uhmm.. except for the recall on my wife's Q5's 2.0L to fix an aux coolant pump for risk of fire, and this is the second recall.

Any Honda at the top? lol, wtf.
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^ CR must have tested out just the civic type R 2l engine ONLY and then called it the day. Grinning Face With Smiling Eyes
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Bb0231 wrote: Image

- How come Porsche and Audi can have engines that have better performance and as good reliability???

- CR also rates Honda's turbo engine better than ave. non turbo engine!?!
Interesting that Hyundai is so bad and Kia is so much better considering they are the same engine ???
CR says " Hyundai uses a seven-speed transmission to save gas and improve performance. Some members also told us that the transmission had problems."...is that a factor in their turbo engine reliability rating or is it just engine?
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As usual CR is a shit show. I can never take them seriously.
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EP32k2 wrote: As usual CR is a shit show. I can never take them seriously.
They trashed one of your cars too? What make was it?
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poleman wrote: They trashed one of your cars too? What make was it?
BMW and Porsche, although I'll say that they are probably accurate with Porsche. BMW at the top? Come on.
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alanbrenton wrote: I read the comments after the CR article and one pointed out that the result is based on actual cars they bought (or loaned) so it's possible they got better batches of Porsches and Audis and regular batches of VWs. :)
If you follow the link you posted to CR site:
"our annual Auto Reliability Survey, which polls CR members about their experience with more than 500,000"

It further mentions two instances:
"Some owners in our survey reported various problems with the 3.0-liter turbo V6 engine in the Lincoln MKZ sedan and with the Hyundai Tucson’s 1.6-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine. With that engine, Hyundai uses a seven-speed transmission to save gas and improve performance. Some members also told us that the transmission had problems."

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