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Sep 10th, 2009 04:18 PM #1Jr. Member
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Cops Solution to Stunt Racing being Unconstitutional
As most of you heard by now the first step towrds the new Stunting law has been taken
(Street-Racing Law Ruled Unconstitutional but OPP Will Continue To Lay Charges)
But we are not in the clear yet. The law is the law and we will STILL see copy laying charges.
Sgt. Dave Woodford told CTV Toronto the legislation is still being enforced because the law has been effective in reducing the number of fatalities on Ontario highways by about 30 per cent in the last two years since it was enacted.
But to cover their own butts you will also see a SECOND charges when you get pulled over..
One -> for Stunting
One -> for speeding (section 128)
So even IF the stunting one falls because of the new case-law (which will STILL be apealed) you will be left with speeding
So dont get to excited with that gas pedal just yet!
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By law, speeding is considered an absolute liability. A driver can't argue they didn't know they were speeding and hope to get acquitted.
However, the driver could very well be "morally blameless," meaning the motorist thought she was going at the speed limit even though she was not, Morton said.
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Sep 10th, 2009 04:40 PM #2Deal Addict
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Sep 10th, 2009 04:54 PM #3
From some of the members on this forum it sounds like as soon as this law is amended they're going to go out and speed over 50 right away...
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Sep 10th, 2009 05:01 PM #4Maybe but no, not right away.
Originally Posted by mkerian
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Sep 10th, 2009 05:09 PM #5 Originally Posted by mkerian
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Sep 10th, 2009 05:11 PM #6Ooh, I see a lot of problems with that! The police may think they can get around this ruling that way, but I can see some courts considering this an abuse of process. Guess we'll have to wait and see when this starts happening, but that's my feeling. Originally Posted by darkdrgn2k
As most of you heard by now the first step towrds the new Stunting law has been taken
(Street-Racing Law Ruled Unconstitutional but OPP Will Continue To Lay Charges)
But we are not in the clear yet. The law is the law and we will STILL see copy laying charges.
But to cover their own butts you will also see a SECOND charges when you get pulled over..
One -> for Stunting
One -> for speeding (section 128)
So even IF the stunting one falls because of the new case-law (which will STILL be apealed) you will be left with speeding
So dont get to excited with that gas pedal just yet!
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Sep 10th, 2009 06:24 PM #7Deal Addict
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How do you figure that? Even if the stunting law was completely repealed and didn't exist, it's still ILLEGAL to be driving 150 on a 100 road. It's still dangerous driving. The OP makes it sound like it's perfectly fine to be driving 150 and endangering other people's lives as long as the stunting law didn't exist. Originally Posted by Nikita
They're not 'getting around' the ruling in any way. They're just covering themselves in case the easier to litigate stunting law gets repealed. What should happen is that they should never lay the stunting charge and just lay speeding/dangerous driving charges to begin with. In which case your car would still be towed and license automatically suspended. Reply With Quote
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Sep 10th, 2009 06:42 PM #8Someone driving 105km/h and exercising poor lane discipline is endangering lives more than someone driving 140km/h down the left lane. This is was causes collisions, not speed. I HATE how all of you talk about driving 150km/h like it is the most life threatening thing in the world. How is it that in Germany many sections of their highways have No Limit, and there isn't any more traffic fatalities? Drive over there for a few days and you will quickly learn why. People there actually know how to drive! Stay to the right except to pass. Seems pretty simple to me. Originally Posted by tokajim
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Sep 10th, 2009 06:50 PM #9"Speeding" is a cheaper, easier, and far more profitable "offence" to go after. It's all about the revenue generated....and the cop's ticket quota of course (gotta win that toaster!). Originally Posted by d-burn
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Sep 10th, 2009 08:02 PM #10Dave,Sgt. Dave Woodford told CTV Toronto the legislation is still being enforced because the law has been effective in reducing the number of fatalities on Ontario highways by about 30 per cent in the last two years since it was enacted.
I want to see hard evidence of this please.
Stats are always manipulated so the truth is so skewed you can't truly believe everything they say. Reply With Quote
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Sep 10th, 2009 08:06 PM #11Gotta win that toaster? Seriously man, your only posts are anti-cop this and anti-cop that. Not very original.. Originally Posted by Kellster
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Sep 10th, 2009 08:30 PM #12RFD 50 over cruise? Originally Posted by mkerian
No civics and corollas allowed?!
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Sep 10th, 2009 08:44 PM #13Won't be anybody there then! Originally Posted by tyfriend
RFD 50 over cruise?
No civics and corollas allowed?! Reply With Quote
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Sep 10th, 2009 08:44 PM #14Even if it has a big wing and 100+ HP worth of stickers? Originally Posted by tyfriend
RFD 50 over cruise?
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Sep 10th, 2009 08:45 PM #15+1 Originally Posted by tyfriend
I bet there has been virtually no change_______________
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