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Re: Costco Premier 40,000 gain water softener

Posted: Jan 4th, 2013 10:00 pm
by woof
Yes. Might also save on salt although not sure about that.

Re: Costco Premier 40,000 gain water softener

Posted: Jan 4th, 2013 10:13 pm
by THINKPADT61
woof wrote:
Jan 4th, 2013 10:00 pm
Yes. Might also save on salt although not sure about that.
Sorry, are you confirming that the Premier AF-40K water softener from Costco uses Demand-Initiated Regeneration? Meaning it will only regenerate when it is needed, not base on a set timer? If yes, I am getting it :)

Re: Costco Premier 40,000 gain water softener

Posted: Jan 5th, 2013 11:39 am
by woof
No. I am confirming nothing since I do not currently own it and the manufacturers descriptions/specifications are vague.

Re: Costco Premier 40,000 gain water softener

Posted: Jan 5th, 2013 11:55 am
by GapBoyPCS
THINKPADT61 wrote:
Jan 4th, 2013 9:26 pm
Help me understand... you would want a higher grains rating so that the unit doesn't regenerate as often? as the process of regenerating will use a lot of water?

Also, I have done some reading and there are two types of control:

1. Timer base regeneration or;
2. Demand-initiated regeneration (DIR)

The DIR type is definitely going to save more water in the long run.

Anyone know if the Premier water softener sold by Costco is timer or demand-initiated base regeneration?
It's a mix.

I took a picture of the box a few months ago but I deleted it. My memory says the box listed it is as demand-initiated. From costco.ca, it says:
Digital demand regeneration valve with bypass valve preinstalled
Thing is, this water softener will regenerate after 15 days if there hasn't been a recharge/regeneration of soft water. So if you don't use enough soft water after 15 days since the last regeneration, this system will trigger one. You can't override this setting. It's in the installation manual that's linked in the Costco.ca page, but it's not on Watts' website. I'm not sure if that sears.ca one linked earlier has a similar setting or not.

From my shopping experience, there's a balance that you need to consider. Yes, the more grains means the water softener will regenerate less often. However, the plumbers I spoke with suggested I don't go too big of a system that would cause problems down the road if the softener didn't regenerate periodically (it's the idea that if things stagnate that whatever parts could clog etc.).

Re: Costco Premier 40,000 gain water softener

Posted: Jan 5th, 2013 6:19 pm
by THINKPADT61
I have email Watt, the maker of this costco water softener.

Re: Costco Premier 40,000 gain water softener

Posted: Jan 8th, 2013 1:12 pm
by RoughriderFan
Been looking at this one and the Kenmore 24,000 grain. The Kenmore is probably too small for my needs (checked at sears and was told yesterday only 14 left in Western Canada). I just called my local Costco (Regina). They just got 10 of the 40,000 grain in this morning (so 11 in stock). The website item # does not match what's in store, but it is the same softener (40,000 grain made by Watt).

$429.99

Re: Costco Premier 40,000 gain water softener

Posted: Jan 8th, 2013 1:52 pm
by ryap
Can anyone confirm that this sale price is available in Toronto as well?

Re: Costco Premier 40,000 gain water softener

Posted: Jan 8th, 2013 2:25 pm
by noNuser
ryap wrote:
Jan 8th, 2013 1:52 pm
Can anyone confirm that this sale price is available in Toronto as well?
Lol order online I called around. There not such unit at the warehouse location called markham

Re: Costco Premier 40,000 gain water softener

Posted: Jan 9th, 2013 2:16 pm
by BushCaddy
I saw these in the Barrie Costco last week. I would definitely buy one at this price, but it's a little small for my water conditions.

Make sure you guys size these properly, if you get one that is undersized, it will probably still work, but it will use WAY more salt.
Something like up to 5 times as much salt for the same amount of softened water. This site has some good info on how to properly size a softener. http://www.aquatell.ca/knowledge-center ... r-softener

Re: Costco Premier 40,000 gain water softener

Posted: Jan 9th, 2013 6:56 pm
by THINKPADT61
A email from Watts Water, the maker of this Premier Water Softener from Costco, confirmed to me that the AF40K does indeed regenerate on demand and will force a regeneration after 14days without a regen.

Re: Costco Premier 40,000 gain water softener

Posted: Jan 14th, 2013 8:11 pm
by GapBoyPCS
FYI: Kitchener Costco had this yesterday for $419.99.

Re: Costco Premier 40,000 gain water softener

Posted: Jan 14th, 2013 8:37 pm
by THINKPADT61
What should be soften in the house?

I plan to soften both hot and cold water expect for the following:
-fridge cold water line
-kitchen faucet cold water line
-toilets cold water line
-exterior cold water line

Did I miss any thing?

Re: Costco Premier 40,000 gain water softener

Posted: Jan 14th, 2013 8:59 pm
by Jamie_Canuck
THINKPADT61 wrote:
Jan 14th, 2013 8:37 pm
What should be soften in the house?

I plan to soften both hot and cold water expect for the following:
-fridge cold water line
-kitchen faucet cold water line
-toilets cold water line
-exterior cold water line

Did I miss any thing?
I would use soft cold in your toilets...

Re: Costco Premier 40,000 gain water softener

Posted: Jan 14th, 2013 9:18 pm
by mrgreenjeans
Jamie_Canuck wrote:
Jan 14th, 2013 8:59 pm
I would use soft cold in your toilets...
Agreed. Not worth the trouble of running dedicated lines to all the toilets. Also if you are planning to install an RO system later then no need to bypass the kitchen faucet or fridge either.

Re: Costco Premier 40,000 gain water softener

Posted: Jan 15th, 2013 8:27 am
by rdx
noNuser wrote:
Jan 4th, 2013 6:54 pm
Anyone tried this unit before No-Salt Conditioner Model 1100

http://www.easywater.com/products/no-salt-conditioner/
I would like to know too. Any dealers in GTA selling it ?