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Criticism: "All Hot Deals" forum is not full of any such thing.

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Poll: Make "Hot Deals" actually hot again.

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Yes please
 
5
56%
No, and what are celery prices in Moncton, thank you?
 
4
44%

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Oct 11, 2012
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Criticism: "All Hot Deals" forum is not full of any such thing.

Hey folks, can we all agree that what qualifies as a "hot deal" and the "all hot deals" forum are being spammed by deals that are really more "meh deal" and "that's not even a deal"? Here's what I'm seeing there right now, to illustrate the point:
  • A car lease listing for Subaru - absolutely no context around whether it's actually a deal or not
  • Something that looks basically like an announcement that a dollar store has a certain kind of item; this isn't a deal it's a statement
  • A BBQ scraper for a certain price - so you don't get steel in your steak, that's a good deal, but - it's $5, short of that being 75% off this isn't a deal it's an ad
  • A deal on celery in the GTA; this site doesn't cater to the GTA. It's not a deal if I have to spend $360 flying there and back just to save $5 on celery
  • A deal if you switch your entire bank to another bank; I tried this once and failed miserably. Moving banks isn't a deal, it's a PITA (the acronym, not the delicious flatbread)
Let's face it: the hot deals forum is in danger of hypothermia right now. Can we all vote yea or nay on the site owners doing something to move it at least to "luke warm"?
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Deal Expert
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Feb 9, 2003
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BRB, gotta go get my "MJ eating popcorn" meme.
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gfair2 wrote: Something that looks basically like an announcement that a dollar store has a certain kind of item; this isn't a deal it's a statement
Some of the more recent dollar store threads have been deals.
I picked up a car vent phone holder for $4 at FourDollarama. They're selling for $10+ everywhere else.
A BBQ scraper for a certain price - so you don't get steel in your steak, that's a good deal, but - it's $5, short of that being 75% off this isn't a deal it's an ad
That's not that bad considering retail scrapers are more than $5.
A deal on celery in the GTA; this site doesn't cater to the GTA. It's not a deal if I have to spend $360 flying there and back just to save $5 on celery
GTA is the center of the universe. Everyone lives there.
A deal if you switch your entire bank to another bank; I tried this once and failed miserably. Moving banks isn't a deal, it's a PITA (the acronym, not the delicious flatbread)
Who said you have to switch your entire bank? Keep your existing bank and do exactly the bare minimum to achieve the bonus.
I have accounts at 4 different banks now but only really use one.
Let's face it: the hot deals forum is in danger of hypothermia right now. Can we all vote yea or nay on the site owners doing something to move it at least to "luke warm"?
That's basically what downvotes are for.
If you see a deal that has -300 downvotes it's probably not a deal.
Deal Addict
Mar 21, 2010
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Toronto
gfair2 wrote: Hey folks, can we all agree that what qualifies as a "hot deal" and the "all hot deals" forum are being spammed by deals that are really more "meh deal" and "that's not even a deal"? Here's what I'm seeing there right now, to illustrate the point:
  • A car lease listing for Subaru - absolutely no context around whether it's actually a deal or not
  • Something that looks basically like an announcement that a dollar store has a certain kind of item; this isn't a deal it's a statement
  • A BBQ scraper for a certain price - so you don't get steel in your steak, that's a good deal, but - it's $5, short of that being 75% off this isn't a deal it's an ad
  • A deal on celery in the GTA; this site doesn't cater to the GTA. It's not a deal if I have to spend $360 flying there and back just to save $5 on celery
  • A deal if you switch your entire bank to another bank; I tried this once and failed miserably. Moving banks isn't a deal, it's a PITA (the acronym, not the delicious flatbread)
Let's face it: the hot deals forum is in danger of hypothermia right now. Can we all vote yea or nay on the site owners doing something to move it at least to "luke warm"?
I don't entirely agree with your points, but I agree that it might be helpful to leverage the voting system more - for example only allowing users to post to a "Deals" forum, and only deals that get a certain number of net positive votes get moved to "Hot Deals".
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Jun 17, 2013
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A “hot deal” is and always has been very subjective. The definition has also changed a lot since this website has been around but there has never been specific criteria in place that a deal would have to meet in order to be shared. Going solely off of votes, most deals seem to be positively received.

If we limited it only deals that we knew for a fact would score really well, there would be a huge reduction in deals being shared. For example only 64 Hot Deals forum threads out of 1,800 currently sit at 50+ (3.5%).

Yes, you did bring up a few examples of deals that might not be hot to a significant amount of people, but simply stopping them from being shared would be a huge disservice to those that might be interested.

Currently there’s an average of 50-60 new deal threads being shared each day (1.5 pages at 40 threads per page view). In my opinion that is not so many that I’d consider it “being spammed”. Viewing the forum for newest to oldest, would likely only take someone a minute to catch up on everything from the past 24 hours.

We are in the process of making some changes which I feel will greatly benefit members like yourself. You’ll be able to setup criteria to personalize your view which means you should see more of the deals you want to, and less of the deals you don’t. You’d be able to select deal categories, retailers, and other criteria to filter your view by (score possibly being one of them).

Hopefully this and other upcoming changes will help make your RFD experience better once they get added in.
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Aside from cold deals, another thing that can cause hypothermia is inactivity.

Regardless of how good the deal is to me, it was posted by a real person who put in time and effort in hopes that it might help somebody save money. As someone who is often too lazy to post deals that I come across, I really appreciate that. I would much rather see deals that are lukewarm than no posts at all, in which case I might just visit the Hot Deals section once a week if there is very little activity.

The thread topics there are pretty clear so I just quickly skim through and click on the deals I'm interested in....so I think it's fine the way it is!
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Mar 2, 2008
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You need to start using the "Hide this thread" feature. Just takes one click for each thread you're not interested in, and you never need to see it again.
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Pre-ordered at regular price posts need to be removed. Playstation Plus monthly free games threads don't belong.
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Sep 27, 2003
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User381785 wrote: Pre-ordered at regular price posts need to be removed. Playstation Plus monthly free games threads don't belong.
If the community believes a deal to not be hot (or even a deal, period), then they have the ability to vote it down.

If the community doesn't wish to see a specific thread, they have the ability to hide it.
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WorldIRC wrote: If the community believes a deal to not be hot (or even a deal, period), then they have the ability to vote it down.

If the community doesn't wish to see a specific thread, they have the ability to hide it.
While we do have options available to better everyones view, they can (and will be) improved in the future. One of my hopeful filtering options will include "Pre-orders".
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WorldIRC wrote: If the community believes a deal to not be hot (or even a deal, period), then they have the ability to vote it down.

If the community doesn't wish to see a specific thread, they have the ability to hide it.
I think you should re-read what you wrote here and consider issuing a different response.
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Sep 27, 2003
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brghunter wrote: I think you should re-read what you wrote here and consider issuing a different response.
I'm content with my response, which is in line with the direction the administration intends to take.

As @TomRFD has just stated, the eventual goal is to add additional filtering options to Hot Deals. That way, if someone in the community doesn't like a particular post, it can be filtered out.
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WorldIRC wrote: I'm content with my response, which is in line with the direction the administration intends to take.

As @TomRFD has just stated, the eventual goal is to add additional filtering options to Hot Deals. That way, if someone in the community doesn't like a particular post, it can be filtered out.
What you wrote could be fairly interpreted as "Post anything you want in the Hot Deals forums. The users can then downvote or hide your thread if they wish."

I wasn't implying anything about what Tom wrote, nor does it have any bearing on your original comment in the context of my suggestion.
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Sep 9, 2010
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brghunter wrote: You need to start using the "Hide this thread" feature. Just takes one click for each thread you're not interested in, and you never need to see it again.
That's precisely the main shortcoming for "hide this thread" as a tool for filtering out thread subsets in Hot Deals: each thread has to be processed individually (one-by-one), there's no way for processing a list of threads in a batch in a single operation (by picking some threads creating a multiple selection set or by selecting all threads from a custom list -- custom list created using search by thread title or by tag and listing only opening posts).
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WorldIRC wrote: I'm content with my response, which is in line with the direction the administration intends to take.

As @TomRFD has just stated, the eventual goal is to add additional filtering options to Hot Deals. That way, if someone in the community doesn't like a particular post, it can be filtered out.
it would be cool if you could filter out by the scale of the deal... or % off regular price

e.g. 50% Off deals!!! = HOT
75% off deals!!! = burning LAVA HAWT!
90% off deals!!! = WALKING ON THE SUN IN BARE FEET HAAAAATTTT HAT HAT HAT

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