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DCEU: Justice League Parts 1 & 2 - Nov 17, 2017 & June 14, 2019

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I also noticed Zac Snyder seems to LOVE slow-mo shots. It makes sense for a character like the Flash and maybe a few action slows here and there, but they really stood out to me.
Ya, unfortunately he caught the Michael Bay disease.
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So instead of this Injustice league don't you think they should have a crossover of the suicide squad instead with some new additions in villan characters?

Also I think the ending with Cyborg made his suit look more like they were going for Iron man with the reactor in the middle of the chest piece.
The villan Deathstroke reminds me of Deadpool.
This is DC copying on Marvel's success again? :rolleyes:

With this being said there might not be a sequel after all.
http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/just ... e-2-happen

http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/11/12/just ... l-villains
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TheRock2012 wrote:
Nov 22nd, 2017 11:32 pm
Also I think the ending with Cyborg made his suit look more like they were going for Iron man with the reactor in the middle of the chest piece.
Iron Man's chest thing probably pre-dates Cyborg but the New 52 Cyborg certainly has it. With that said, putting something in the middle of the chest is not an Iron Man copyright.
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Nov 22nd, 2017 11:32 pm
The villan Deathstroke reminds me of Deadpool.
This is DC copying on Marvel's success again? :rolleyes:
Deadpool was create by Marvel as a parody to the popular Deathstroke. Slade Wilson vs Wade Wilson?
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Nov 22nd, 2017 11:32 pm
With this being said there might not be a sequel after all.
http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/just ... e-2-happen

http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/11/12/just ... l-villains
DCEU isn't going anywhere. If anything, they'll push JL2 further out while filling out the schedule with smaller more financially manageable solo or small team-up movies.
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Yeah Deathstroke's already been brought to the silver screen in the TV show Arrow (portrayed by Manu Bennett).His movie incarnation's costume seemed more faithful to the comics than the hockey-mask type used in Arrow.

As far as copying...Marvel & DC have been both kind of "inspired" one another over the years with various characters analogous to their competitor's characters.

Here's a cool image that shows a few of them side-by-side with the year each came out.
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I haven't seen Justice League and have no idea if it's good or trash, but according to Forbes the film bombed in the worst possible way. Ben Affleck is out as Batman and the best to hope is a reboot, according to the article. The future of the entire DECU is unknown at this point, though Aqua Man will release (since it's already complete) and Wonder Woman 2 is pretty much guaranteed.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes ... cca024b91c
With Justice League opening to lower-than-lowest-prediction figures, its $94 million domestic and $185 million foreign cume this weekend point to an undeniable failure of the worst degree for a picture that hoped and needed a far better critical and financial reception to justify its own existence and send a signal that the DCEU had made solid adjustments capable of delivering better results for Warner's stable of major superhero brands. The implications of these box office numbers are not just bad for the film itself, they point toward a rougher road ahead for the studio and the DCEU. I've already posted a separate article earlier today, assessing the box office details and outlook for Justice League, so please go read that for some background to this article's larger points.

So let's sit down and face a bitter but inevitable truth, DC fans: the future of the DCEU is up in the air at this point. How much so, and how soon, is of course up for debate, but as the dust settles from this weekend I fear things might turn out much worse than any of us expected in the long run.
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Ben Affleck was frankly on his way out the door anyway, and Batman will probably get a soft or hard reboot now -- I've resisted speaking too much about this publicly, but behind the scenes most sources have consistently stated he and Warner were just waiting until after Justice League to make an announcement, so the box office situation will probably expedite that process for them (which, I would guess, will actually be a relief for Affleck and Warner, since I imagine there's been some stress and frustration for them in trying to maintain vagueness about everything for the past several months).
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The initial 3-day box office analysis seems premature. It's not breaking records, but it's not an actual bomb.

With 7 days in, it's at $130M domestic plus global, and it's still neck & neck at the top with Coco for the US Thanksgiving box office.
http://variety.com/2017/film/box-office ... 202622478/
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=dcfilm1117.htm

You haven't seen the movie, but if you had, I think the writing's on the wall for Affleck's Batman regardless of the film's commercial success. His Batman is older, vulnerable, and not able to do this forever. It'd be nice to see an older Bruce Wayne mentor someone else to take his place, like a Dick Grayson / Nightwing storyline.
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Nov 24th, 2017 3:58 pm
The initial 3-day box office analysis seems premature. It's not breaking records, but it's not an actual bomb.

With 7 days in, it's at $130M domestic plus global, and it's still neck & neck at the top with Coco for the US Thanksgiving box office.
http://variety.com/2017/film/box-office ... 202622478/
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=dcfilm1117.htm

You haven't seen the movie, but if you had, I think the writing's on the wall for Affleck's Batman regardless of the film's commercial success. His Batman is older, vulnerable, and not able to do this forever. It'd be nice to see an older Bruce Wayne mentor someone else to take his place, like a Dick Grayson / Nightwing storyline.
If projections are correct and this movie ends up losing money with DC's A-list team, this should absolutely be considered a bomb.
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HISHE review is great, sums it up. I agree watching twice made me show some mercy.

What I love is HISHE's take on how BvS & JL should've been done.

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Editing is problem especially after learning WB wanted it around two hours.

There was scenes that could've easily been cut and put more focus on the three (Flash, Cyborg and Aqua), did we really need to see Wonder Woman stopping the terrorist attack, Lois Lane and Martha?
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Editing is problem especially after learning WB wanted it around two hours.

There was scenes that could've easily been cut and put more focus on the three (Flash, Cyborg and Aqua), did we really need to see Wonder Woman stopping the terrorist attack, Lois Lane and Martha?

I remember early trailers of JL and seeing an explosion...presumably the WW scene. A lot of scenes from early trailers were cut...no surprise there since WB mandated a 2hr movie. But leaves me wanting the 'original cut' or 'Zack Snyder's - directors cut' to eventually get released, just like Richard Donners' Cut was released for Superman 2...only time will tell. The only reason for the Lois Lane and Martha, was for the end scene when the house is bought...happy ending. Agreed though, should have been cut or least reduced to just screenshots.
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Justice League ended up with a number of deleted scenes we were promised from the trailers. But those being omitted was a result of a long string of decision which lead to the version of Justice League that I got. Anyways, that's what this is about as well as Superman's mustache, Joss Whedon taking over, the Zack Snyder version and whatever else.
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Just saw it, pretty entertaining but choppy. Felt rushed and they needed to explain things better. The ending was poor and I didn't care for half the cast: Aquaman, Flash, Batman.
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Mike15 wrote:
Nov 24th, 2017 3:58 pm
The initial 3-day box office analysis seems premature. It's not breaking records, but it's not an actual bomb.

With 7 days in, it's at $130M domestic plus global, and it's still neck & neck at the top with Coco for the US Thanksgiving box office.
http://variety.com/2017/film/box-office ... 202622478/
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=dcfilm1117.htm

You haven't seen the movie, but if you had, I think the writing's on the wall for Affleck's Batman regardless of the film's commercial success. His Batman is older, vulnerable, and not able to do this forever. It'd be nice to see an older Bruce Wayne mentor someone else to take his place, like a Dick Grayson / Nightwing storyline.
Bomb is always in relationship to how much the movie cost to make. Justice League was an expensive movie. Something like 250 million to make plus marketing costs on top of that. It's probably 350 million they have to recoup when all is said and done. They keep 1/2 of north american box office and 1/3 of international box office. It's got along way to go before break even :(

I want to see more DC movies so I hope it gets there. I'm guessing who's ever in charge over there hasn't had a good couple of weeks...
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Bomb is always in relationship to how much the movie cost to make. Justice League was an expensive movie. Something like 250 million to make plus marketing costs on top of that. It's probably 350 million they have to recoup when all is said and done. They keep 1/2 of north american box office and 1/3 of international box office. It's got along way to go before break even :(

I want to see more DC movies so I hope it gets there. I'm guessing who's ever in charge over there hasn't had a good couple of weeks...
It was more like $300m to make and $150m in marketing so ~$450m total. They'll break even after home video sales but it's not an ideal situation.
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Nov 26th, 2017 10:35 pm
It was more like $300m to make and $150m in marketing so ~$450m total. They'll break even after home video sales but it's not an ideal situation.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmende ... c7be217f65

Crossed $400M worldwide through Friday. So plus Saturday, plus Sunday, it could almost be at break even already.

It's not a huge "hit" relative to the budget, but it's at least it's increasingly less likely it'll actually lose money.

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