DD-WRT's QoS simply does not work.... what do i do now?

[trixstar]

so apparently, I bought my WRT54GL v1.1 and flashed it to dd-wrt's v24-sp2 micro build 12533 (07/21/09)..

QoS does not work no matter what settings I put it at.. plus, i get frequent "local network connectivity" issues with my laptop running windows vista..

i thought DDWRT was the way to go, boy was i wrong...

any thoughts?

my connection is so bad right now because of the tenants that are downloading and i cannot upload a picture onto the internet so i'm forced to type down the values:


Start QoS - enable

Port - LAN & WLAN

Packet Scheduler: HTB

Uplink - 503 kbps (80%)

Downlink - 1981 kbps (80%)

Optimize for gaming - no

No services priority or netmask priority

all of the MAC addresses are set, everyone is set to bulk and I am set to exempt

all ethernet port priority is exempt as well, since everyone is on wifi.


I tried changing the upload and download values to 500 and 100 and my speedtest results still show about 2400 kbps down and 600 kbps upload.

[Oversized Rooster]

What do you do now? Simple! You use Tomato instead (as you should have done from the start)!

[toalan]

You will probably have to setup the bulk/exempt thing using MAC addresses since they are using wireless. Alternatively you can just feed them an ethernet cable and do the bulk/exempt based on the ethernet ports, if they want wireless tell them to buy their own wireless router.

[trixstar]

What do you do now? Simple! You use Tomato instead (as you should have done from the start)!

sigh, okay, so what do i do now?

i downloaded the latest tomato firmware fromt the website..

do i reset my router and then load tomato into it?

should i use telnet to find out the username and password for the router before flashing it to tomato??

[Oversized Rooster]

I recommend first flashing back to the Linksys firmware and then from within that to flash to Tomato. By default, I am pretty sure the username for Tomato is root and the pass is blank. It's in the Tomato FAQ on that site.

From there, you must re-input your settings.

[jetway1212]

sigh, okay, so what do i do now?

i downloaded the latest tomato firmware fromt the website..

do i reset my router and then load tomato into it?

should i use telnet to find out the username and password for the router before flashing it to tomato??

To switch from DDWRT to Tomato, you must reflash it back to Linksys firmware first then flash it to Tomato firmware.

This might be dumb but after you set QoS, did you reboot the router? It has been a while since i used DDWRT so i'm not sure but you should reset the connections. QoS only applies to new connections so if they already have connections, they will automatically be exempt.

Best way is to tell them internet is off for 2 hrs. Do the following setups in order:

+ Disable wireless access point
+ Set QoS
+ Clear DHCP lease (remove all static lease as well)
+ Reboot
+ Enable wireless

Check to see if this works.

Dont reflash Tomato just yet, i know for the fact that QoS does work in DDWRT last time i used it.

[BobSagget]

What makes Tomato better than DD-WRT? This is a serious question. I use DD-WRT on my linksys router and will switch to Tomato if it offers something dd-wrt doesn't.

could anyone add some insight?

[jetway1212]

What makes Tomato better than DD-WRT? This is a serious question. I use DD-WRT on my linksys router and will switch to Tomato if it offers something dd-wrt doesn't.

could anyone add some insight?

Feature wise , DDWRT is a better choice. However ppl like Tomato due to the lightweight.

Their routing algorithm is different. With Tomato can handle lots of connections smoother. DDWRT however would produce more through out with less connections. I dont want to get technical but for consumer routers, they're both great. You will probably never see a different in performances between them.

[JAC]

Implementing QoS is pointless. The only way the router can implement this is to discard packets after they have already been identified, thereby wasting your bandwidth.

[rchong]

Try changing LAN/WLAN to WAN?

[toalan]

Implementing QoS is pointless. The only way the router can implement this is to discard packets after they have already been identified, thereby wasting your bandwidth.

Are you sure it is useless?

I limit my nntp (newgroups) connections to 3mbit using bulk, and I can still get about 2mbit on the my http which is exempted. I do think there is about 1 mbit that is wasted as I can push slightly below 6mbit normally.

[Outsider]

Implementing QoS is pointless. The only way the router can implement this is to discard packets after they have already been identified, thereby wasting your bandwidth.

I agree that QoS on the downstream side is pointless.
It's QoS on the upstream side that should be set up.

I don't know what the OP's intentions are.

[JAC]

Are you sure it is useless?

I limit my nntp (newgroups) connections to 3mbit using bulk, and I can still get about 2mbit on the my http which is exempted. I do think there is about 1 mbit that is wasted as I can push slightly below 6mbit normally.

You'd be better off limiting NNTP with your newsreader client.

[Aske001]

I agree that QoS on the downstream side is pointless.
It's QoS on the upstream side that should be set up.

I don't know what the OP's intentions are.

Yes, JAC makes a good point. The effect of QoS will depend on what sort of downloading the tenants are doing. If the protocol doesn't require a lot of upload bandwidth, QoS won't help much since it can only limit upload bandwidth on your internet connection. As JAC says, download packets have already used your internet bandwidth by the time they arrive at the router.

[trixstar]

Basically, my tenants are running torrents which slow down the internet connection because they are consuming much of the upload.. Anyways, I'm finally done setting up my router with Tomato and I've enabled QoS and blocked all traffic from gnutella, bitorrent and kazaa. I've also limited the upload and download traffic to 80% of my connection and I setup for all mac addresses except mine to use Class A in QoS..

so far, my internet has been great and nobody is complaining. The router itself hasn't crashed at all over the night.. When I had DD-WRT the other night, i had to reset it morning and night