sam1234... you're wasting your time arguing your point here. Even if crinkle and cosmic concede to your point (which they won't cuz they're right in this case) you still won't know for sure whether you're right because you're just going based on what people were telling you.
i had a similar argument just a few weeks ago about non-moving violations not affecting insurance. it was about two pages long of back and forth and at the end of the day, i know i'm right by having "tested" the system in addition to having talked to many people in the industry, some of whom told me one thing, some of whom told me another thing. but mainly i know because i have first hand experience as a result of the system not upping my rates for document violations... as do my friends, etc.
so i submit to you to put your money where your mouth is. the next time you get a speeding ticket, fight it and plea it down. don't get it thrown out and see whether it raises your rates. get your friends to do the same thing. then you will know.
who knows, maybe your insurance company is one of those off-beat ones that don't care about convictions, only points, although I've never heard of any. I doubt it. but who knows.