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Do employers have to pay you for training?

I was recently let go from my job but I did about 7 hours of training which I didnt get paid for. The company said that they would pay me that after I worked 100 hours. I worked under that much. Are they legally entitled to pay me that or not? I am wondering whats their obligation under the law.
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Training is privilege. It's an investment for your employer in a hope of getting better work production from you. It's not an obligation as far as I know.

It comes down to your employment contract. Was training included in your negotiated deal? If not, think about it... is a law firm obligated to pay its lawyer's tuition? How about accounting firm for accountants?
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MoreMiles wrote:
Jul 4th, 2009 7:53 am
If not, think about it... is a law firm obligated to pay its lawyer's tuition? How about accounting firm for accountants?
That's education, not necessarily training.
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Ovechkin wrote:
Jul 4th, 2009 2:18 am
I was recently let go from my job but I did about 7 hours of training which I didnt get paid for. The company said that they would pay me that after I worked 100 hours. I worked under that much. Are they legally entitled to pay me that or not? I am wondering whats their obligation under the law.
Since they have a clause stating they will pay you the 7 hours of training after you worked >= 100 hours and you are "let you", is this your own will(quit/resign)?
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Ovechkin wrote:
Jul 4th, 2009 2:18 am
I was recently let go from my job but I did about 7 hours of training which I didnt get paid for. The company said that they would pay me that after I worked 100 hours. I worked under that much. Are they legally entitled to pay me that or not? I am wondering whats their obligation under the law.
cgtlky wrote:
Jul 4th, 2009 9:39 am
Since they have a clause stating they will pay you the 7 hours of training after you worked >= 100 hours and you are "let you", is this your own will(quit/resign)?
"let you"??
Huh!? :confused:
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Ovechkin wrote:
Jul 4th, 2009 2:18 am
I was recently let go from my job but I did about 7 hours of training which I didnt get paid for. The company said that they would pay me that after I worked 100 hours. I worked under that much. Are they legally entitled to pay me that or not? I am wondering whats their obligation under the law.
Why don't you contact your provincial labour standards department? Just because the company said something does not make it legal.
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I'm pretty sure they have to pay you ...
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cgtlky wrote:
Jul 4th, 2009 9:39 am
Since they have a clause stating they will pay you the 7 hours of training after you worked >= 100 hours and you are "let you", is this your own will(quit/resign)?
no they just said we dont need you anymore, so they basically fired me
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ghostryder wrote:
Jul 4th, 2009 9:12 pm
Why don't you contact your provincial labour standards department? Just because the company said something does not make it legal.
thats what I thought, and thats what I will do
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Ovechkin wrote:
Jul 4th, 2009 2:18 am
I was recently let go from my job but I did about 7 hours of training which I didnt get paid for. The company said that they would pay me that after I worked 100 hours. I worked under that much. Are they legally entitled to pay me that or not? I am wondering whats their obligation under the law.
Really? that doesn't sound right...

I always get salary for my training.
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MoreMiles wrote:
Jul 4th, 2009 7:53 am
Training is privilege. It's an investment for your employer in a hope of getting better work production from you. It's not an obligation as far as I know.

It comes down to your employment contract. Was training included in your negotiated deal? If not, think about it... is a law firm obligated to pay its lawyer's tuition? How about accounting firm for accountants?
privilege? what about places that are dangerous such as the crop fields, operating heavy machinery, etc? Safety standards in blue collar type of jobs? not having proper training could cost the company a lot of money/employees when accidents happen. training should be mandatory.

in quebec, the law states that they are OBLIGATED to pay for training. I once had this issue when an owner of Subways didn't want to pay me for training and I told him about that he is required by law to pay me and even showed him the website . if I am taking my own time to improve myself for the workspace, i should be paid for it. very often they do this to younger students because they are not knowledged when it comes to labor standards. milk them all that they can...

you MUST be paid for training, no matter what. it'd be ridiculous not to. If companies were given the opportunity to not pay for training then I wouldn't be surprised if they half assed it when the training could mean life or death when it comes to safety standards. by being forced to pay you for training no matter what, they're more likely to make the most of their time and money and not waste it and train you more adequately.
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norgos wrote:
Jul 5th, 2009 12:40 pm
privilege? what about places that are dangerous such as the crop fields, operating heavy machinery, etc? Safety standards in blue collar type of jobs? not having proper training could cost the company a lot of money/employees when accidents happen. training should be mandatory.

in quebec, the law states that they are OBLIGATED to pay for training. I once had this issue when an owner of Subways didn't want to pay me for training and I told him about that he is required by law to pay me and even showed him the website . if I am taking my own time to improve myself for the workspace, i should be paid for it. very often they do this to younger students because they are not knowledged when it comes to labor standards. milk them all that they can...

you MUST be paid for training, no matter what. it'd be ridiculous not to. If companies were given the opportunity to not pay for training then I wouldn't be surprised if they half assed it when the training could mean life or death when it comes to safety standards. by being forced to pay you for training no matter what, they're more likely to make the most of their time and money and not waste it and train you more adequately.


do you know if the laws are the same in ontario?
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norgos wrote:
Jul 5th, 2009 12:40 pm
in quebec, the law states that they are OBLIGATED to pay for training. I once had this issue when an owner of Subways didn't want to pay me for training and I told him about that he is required by law to pay me and even showed him the website
If my new employee approached me like this at the beginning of job, he will be gone during the probationary period, no reason needed.

Your old employer must be pretty desperate to keep someone with this kind of attitude.
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MoreMiles wrote:
Jul 5th, 2009 11:54 pm
If my new employee approached me like this at the beginning of job, he will be gone during the probationary period, no reason needed.

Your old employer must be pretty desperate to keep someone with this kind of attitude.
He's just standing up for his rights.
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MoreMiles wrote:
Jul 5th, 2009 11:54 pm
If my new employee approached me like this at the beginning of job, he will be gone during the probationary period, no reason needed.

Your old employer must be pretty desperate to keep someone with this kind of attitude.
oh, this was a job I applied for Subways back when I was in high school. I ended up working at Futureshop instead. The owner took advantage of a lot of students and also non english/french speaking people. it was despicable.
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