I feel like this discussion is completely pointless because you don't strike me as a "car" person at all, if you have to ask such a basic question, but sure, I'll have one last stab at this before I give up as it takes up far too much of my energy.board123 wrote: ↑Jan 25th, 2018 1:51 pmThis goes back to the discussion way earlier in this thread, though. What extra stuff does a 3 series have that a Camry doesn't have? What are these extra things that contribute to its lower reliability?
Forget about demographics and all the other reasons for why the two cars are different. I think the less understood issue is what are the differences, exactly?
Let's step away from German cars for a moment. Let's compare Japanese and American cars. More specifically, Honda Civic versus Ford Focus. Can we all agree that a Civic and Focus are pretty similar in terms of technology and complexity? If so, then how do you explain this reliability rating?
Let's dial this back to 2011 or so, because I can't think of a more drastic time between what the Germans were doing and what the Japanese were doing.
Audi was pushing 200HP from a 2L engine using direct injection and turbocharging. Direct injected gasoline engine provides an insane (at the time) amount of horsepower given the small displacement of the engine. However, this also means HPFPs, cam follower wear issues, coil packs that crapped itself (all the time) etc. However, these Audi engines were getting 30+ mpg, while giving off insane amount of horsepower given how small the engines are. The Japanese had not even begun to experiment with this yet. Their cars, at the time, were still port fuel injected, which don't require piezo injectors, HPFPs, etc etc.
I could, but I'm not going to spend this much time on this topic. Here's another big example, focused on the present.
A Lexus GS vs a Mercedes E class - today. A GS doesn't have air suspension, and you can't even get it with that option. With an E class, you can add it for a measily $2000. I'm sure you know enough about cars to know that air suspension vehicles are great, but they are expensive, as balls, to maintain.
Two types of cars, going after two types of buyers with two different expectations.
The analogy that you're trying to make (that all cars are the same here) is like saying all human beings are the same. We all have the same organs, yet we all perform differently, because we all live in different climates around the world.
There's literally probably another 100 examples off the top of my head, but this is really basic knowledge that you seem to be asking about.
You want to know some more insanity? Go and compare a present day dual turbocharged Bimmer with some Honda Civic. They couldn't be more different.