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Does Airmiles Gold Program worth it?

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What flights do you see available with AirMiles Gold and Onyx status ? Can someone post examples and the taxes/fees involved ?

AirMiles lacks transparency. Contrary to Aeroplan, you cannot see which flights are available and their associated fees unless you have at least half the AirMiles points required for the itinerary


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SnoopDop wrote:
Sep 13th, 2017 3:01 pm
What flights do you see available with AirMiles Gold and Onyx status ? Can someone post examples and the taxes/fees involved ?

AirMiles lacks transparency. Contrary to Aeroplan, you cannot see which flights are available and their associated fees unless you have at least half the AirMiles points required for the itinerary

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We churned the navel lint out of the Amex Airmiles Plat card for a couple of years, plus a few BMO no-fee Airmiles MC. We went from near zero, to a balance of +17,000 Airmiles, and then decided to stop the Airmiles churn adventure. We don't spend much with the cards in the GTA area, unlike our friends in the West, so it was the card welcome bonuses that got us ONYX status.

Gold gives you 20% off the required miles for a Dream flight reward.
ONYX gives you 25% off the required miles.

We made a last minute weekend getaway booking last Fall, YYZ-YVR. Required miles is normally 3600 (shoulder season?), but with ONYX's 25% discount it cost us 2700 per ticket. Taxes at the time were $135 per ticket. "Does it hot"? Not really, but what else are we gonna do with these 'free' points.
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bizee-bee wrote:
Sep 13th, 2017 3:55 pm

Gold gives you 20% off the required miles for a Dream flight reward.
ONYX gives you 25% off the required miles.
Those are the minimums. If you reach Gold or Onyx Status then you also have access to Last Minutes Deals (Flights - Hotels - Vacations) that offer even higher savings.

Onyx Members also enjoy the ability to book "just about any flight" or any Vacation under the Personnel Shopper Perk... Always worth a check, if someone is sitting on a pile of unused AMs.

(Find the price of your flight / vacation elsewhere then get a quote from AM... And calculate what the cost per AM is plus any other fees... To see if it is a deal or not)

We have been both Gold & Onyx over the years. We still belong to the program, cause at our collection rate, it is still worthwhile for us. We've cashed in several times on various Travel Rewards, and have been nothing but satisfied Customers.

Lots of folks b!tch about AMs, but it is essentially like many other Loyalty Programs, it is a case of the more you know the rules and work the program to your advantage ... Then the better the rewards are.
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Those are the minimums. If you reach Gold or Onyx Status then you also have access to Last Minutes Deals (Flights - Hotels - Vacations) that offer even higher savings.

Onyx Members also enjoy the ability to book "just about any flight" or any Vacation under the Personnel Shopper Perk... Always worth a check, if someone is sitting on a pile of unused AMs.

(Find the price of your flight / vacation elsewhere then get a quote from AM... And calculate what the cost per AM is plus any other fees... To see if it is a deal or not)

We have been both Gold & Onyx over the years. We still belong to the program, cause at our collection rate, it is still worthwhile for us. We've cashed in several times on various Travel Rewards, and have been nothing but satisfied Customers.

Lots of folks b!tch about AMs, but it is essentially like many other Loyalty Programs, it is a case of the more you know the rules and work the program to your advantage ... Then the better the rewards are.
We're going to keep using them for last minute local NA flights, as they offer way better availability than Aeroplan can, and will save us money compared to revenue with such short notice. But there's no way the Airmiles can fly us around the world in business class with three city stopovers, like Aeroplan can...at least for another 2 years anyways. :razz:
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bizee-bee wrote:
Sep 13th, 2017 4:47 pm
We're going to keep using them for last minute local NA flights, as they offer way better availability than Aeroplan can, and will save us money compared to revenue with such short notice. But there's no way the Airmiles can fly us around the world in business class with three city stopovers, like Aeroplan can...at least for another 2 years anyways. :razz:
Agreed. But then as we near retirement, we don't fly as much as we once did for work racking up points / miles with Air Canada.

So for us AM points translating into flights or vacation packages, when things align works for us.

Though like I said earlier ya cannot go into it blindly... You still have to be a smart consumer and not a passive player, and know when things are a good deal or not (be that collecting AMs or cashing them in)
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Sep 13th, 2017 5:06 pm
Agreed. But then as we near retirement, we don't fly as much as we once did for work racking up points / miles with Air Canada.

So for us AM points translating into flights or vacation packages, when things align works for us.

Though like I said earlier ya cannot go into it blindly... You still have to be a smart consumer and not a passive player, and know when things are a good deal or not (be that collecting AMs or cashing them in)
We've never flown enough to collect significant miles/points in any program. My friends who do, tell me they wish they didn't have to. Anyways, the huge bulk of Aeroplan (and Airmiles on the side) are all from the churn-for-points game. There have been so many free sources of Aeroplans in the past few years, we are too busy trying to use them up, and only look at the Airmiles peripherally. I'm still not turned off by the many layovers that are part and parcel with Aeroplan international redemptions, because of the added luxury of business class seats. How do people get tired of this? For now, we keep exploring the world with them.

We can't collect Airmiles at the same rate and with such ease, but when we run the Aeroplan tank dry, we can look into those better Airmiles offerings that you speak off...hopefully by then the program won't be so devalued that we've missed the boat. We only have about 10K of Dream Miles to use up, so it's not a lot to worry about.
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We churned the navel lint out of the Amex Airmiles Plat card for a couple of years, plus a few BMO no-fee Airmiles MC. We went from near zero, to a balance of +17,000 Airmiles, and then decided to stop the Airmiles churn adventure. We don't spend much with the cards in the GTA area, unlike our friends in the West, so it was the card welcome bonuses that got us ONYX status.

Gold gives you 20% off the required miles for a Dream flight reward.
ONYX gives you 25% off the required miles.

We made a last minute weekend getaway booking last Fall, YYZ-YVR. Required miles is normally 3600 (shoulder season?), but with ONYX's 25% discount it cost us 2700 per ticket. Taxes at the time were $135 per ticket. "Does it hot"? Not really, but what else are we gonna do with these 'free' points.
Just did a mock booking, YYZ-YVR round trip with Airmiles.
2017-09-13_MockAirmilesBooking_YYZYVR-Oct($140taxes-2880Pts-20pcDiscountSpecial).jpg


2880 Airmiles (a 20% sale) and $140 taxes, for Oct.
Same flights on revenue ring up as $625. So, that's a savings of $485. The 2880 Airmiles are thus 16.8 cpp. I think that's OK, right? Better than cash miles value, anyways.

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