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Does RFD ban deal threads from companies previously engaging in fraud?

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  • Nov 6th, 2017 10:21 am
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Feb 29, 2012
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Richmond

Does RFD ban deal threads from companies previously engaging in fraud?

Tomtop is a Chinese supplier that appears occasionally in deal threads here, but in their most recent thread they sold a fraudulently-labeled product and have refused to respond to RFD members who purchased it. See thread http://forums.redflagdeals.com/tomtop-2 ... d-2131015/

Should they not be banned from future deal threads on RFD to prevent members being subject to fraud? Does RFD have any policy about this? Would RFD contact the company and ask them to explain why they shouldn't be banned?

Or maybe RFD needs a supplier rating system. That would be more valuable than the post upvote/downvote system. Rather than waiting a day for votes to build up on an individual deal thread, people could read immediately that supplier Tomtop has previously been downrated for fraud by 50 votes on RFD.
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Jun 17, 2013
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We have a retailer black list but that's more so for those caught self promoting or recruiting shills. I don't think we've added any retailers to the black list for fraud but this is definitely something we can consider. I'll take a closer read through of that thread and then see what I can do. Maybe I can convince them to do the right thing here.
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Tomtop has begun to issue full refunds, although somewhat grudgingly and after a lot of back-and-forth.

However they are still offering the fraudulent product for sale, with slightly altered specs that are still false. In the end I'd give them a "D" grade rather than an "F". But I would certainly advise any RFDers not to buy from them.
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Faith24 wrote:
Nov 4th, 2017 12:21 pm
Tomtop has begun to issue full refunds, although somewhat grudgingly and after a lot of back-and-forth.

However they are still offering the fraudulent product for sale, with slightly altered specs that are still false. In the end I'd give them a "D" grade rather than an "F". But I would certainly advise any RFDers not to buy from them.
I think many of us also recall the LG G5 Ebay thread where the seller (buyspry) was fraudulently selling as unlocked and brand new (sealed).

Sometimes its best to wait out information and make a wise choice. Jumping on deals has an inherent risk. More people tend to jump on the Tomtop devices because it's not a lot of money they'd be losing.
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You have to be extremely careful on Ebay and with 3rd party Amazon sellers when the item is not fulfilled by Amazon. Buyer beware. If it looks too good to be true it's usually a scam.
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Faith24 wrote:
Nov 4th, 2017 12:21 pm
Tomtop has begun to issue full refunds, although somewhat grudgingly and after a lot of back-and-forth.

However they are still offering the fraudulent product for sale, with slightly altered specs that are still false. In the end I'd give them a "D" grade rather than an "F". But I would certainly advise any RFDers not to buy from them.
I emailed them and encouraged them to do the right thing. I'll check back in a week to see what the latest news is. If they aren't cooperating and continue to sell fraudulent items we'll put a stop to their deals on RFD.
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