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ABDI2997 wrote:
Mar 29th, 2012 11:25 pm
Hi
I just got laid off from my fulltime job, and I applied for the EI. When I checked online, it says a decision will be made by April 3rd. I am still working as a part time labour (16hrs a week for roughly $168 gross). My part time employer cannot issue my ROE because I am still working with him, and service Canada required that.
So what can I do right now?
How many hours should I work as a part time labour (maximum)?
Thanks guys.

Your employer can issue it. He is mistaken. Tell him to put K on box 16, and on box 18, states "employee request". You need to submit this ROE or your claim won't be established. Every day you wait means another day of delay.


http://www.servicecanada.gc.ca/eng/ei/e ... nToIssue_e
Regardless of whether the employee intends to file a claim for EI benefits, you have to issue an ROE:

- each time an employee experiences an interruption of earnings; or
- when Service Canada requests one.
As for your part time work, there is no restriction in hours. Before yesterday's 2012 budget, a claimant can make 40% of his EI rate without being affected. The allowable earning is raised considerably under the new budget, though I'm not sure when the new rule will kick in.
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jtarasoff wrote:
Mar 30th, 2012 1:01 am
hello, i have been receiving sickness benefits for the past 15 weeks. my roe states that it was issued due to illness/injury and my employer paid out all monies owing to me when it was issued. my question is this... my doctor has determined that due to my illness, it would not be acceptable for me to return to my old job due to shifts and number of hours required. my employer cannot accomodate my requests for a modified schedule. exactly what is required for me to convert to regular benefits? i know the words 'medical documentation' have been used but what exactly does that comprise of? do i just need yet another doctors note? and do i need my employer to issue another roe? thanks

In essence, you quit due to health reasons. Your employer probably will amend the existing ROE and change box 16 from D to E. Call Service Canada call centre and request your claim type to be changed from sickness to regular. You will need to answer a questionnaire about why you quit the job. Provide all the details (that your doctor recommends modified duty and not going back to the old position, and your employer unfortunately can not accomodate your request). After answering the questionnaire over the phone, submit the doctor's note (the one that says you can't return to old schedule, but still available for other type of work) to SC centre. That way you have just cause to quit due to health reasons, but you're still available for full time work.
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Mar 30th, 2012 4:27 pm
1) You can file for EI as soon as you have an interruption of earning (no pay, no work for a week) from any of your job. Doesn't mean you will qualify, but you need IOE to apply.

2) 6.5.7 Reasonable Assurance of Another Employment in the Immediate Future means full time work. Casual, on-call positions don't count.

There is another person in your situation (quit FT work for an on-call CP position) somewhere in this thread, and I believe he was approved. Read the whole thread and it may help you with your application.

3) If you are approved, then you just need to declare your earnings from your part time job. It won't affect your availability.
Thank you so much. You do good work here! /salute
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Mar 30th, 2012 4:38 pm
Thank you so much. You do good work here! /salute

Glad to help whichever way I can. :lol:
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[quote="b166er1337" post_id="14505488" time="1333139560" user_id="16508"]Your employer can issue it. He is mistaken. Tell him to put K on box 16, and on box 18, states "employee request". You need to submit this ROE or your claim won't be established. Every day you wait means another day of delay.


http://www.servicecanada.gc.ca/eng/ei/e ... nToIssue_e



Thanks a lot man
Actually I just called the EI call centre, I told them my part time employer won’t issue my ROE, a lady requested to recall the centre by coming Monday, because they need 5 business days after my last part time pay (was last Friday).
By the way, I just completed my EI report online for the period of Mars 18 to 31, they asked me to complete the next one by April 7.
Have a nice day.
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b166er1337 wrote:
Mar 30th, 2012 4:27 pm
1) You can file for EI as soon as you have an interruption of earning (no pay, no work for a week) from any of your job. Doesn't mean you will qualify, but you need IOE to apply.

2) 6.5.7 Reasonable Assurance of Another Employment in the Immediate Future means full time work. Casual, on-call positions don't count.

There is another person in your situation (quit FT work for an on-call CP position) somewhere in this thread, and I believe he was approved. Read the whole thread and it may help you with your application.

3) If you are approved, then you just need to declare your earnings from your part time job. It won't affect your availability.
Does it effect my situation at all if my part time job is at the same company which I resigned from my full time position? They are planning on processing my resignation then rehiring me for the Saturday hours.
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Broodwich wrote:
Mar 31st, 2012 2:43 pm
Does it effect my situation at all if my part time job is at the same company which I resigned from my full time position? They are planning on processing my resignation then rehiring me for the Saturday hours.

Ok this is very complicated. Honestly I'm not sure. It's one thing to quit completely (and work at a pt job at another employer), it's another to quit ft work and came back on pt basis with the same employer. Typically, when someone's hours was cut from full time to part time basis, he is NOT eligible for EI benefits as there is no interruption of earning (no work & no pay for 7 days straight).

Again, the person in similar situation as yours, I think he also went back to his old employer after initial resignation. Each case is different so you may or may not get approved.
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I have two part time jobs right now. I will be layed off from one in June. Can I collect EI for the job I'm loosing while I still have the other job?
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wandamil wrote:
Apr 1st, 2012 9:04 am
I have two part time jobs right now. I will be layed off from one in June. Can I collect EI for the job I'm loosing while I still have the other job?

Yes definitely. You do need to submit both ROEs though.
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Great thread, and very helpful.

I have read through the entire thread to see if my question was covered first (it wasn't) so I shall now ask.

I was laid off from my job Dec 31 & applied for EI on Jan 1. I received a small severance package and a retention bonus payout after the layoff which meant that from Jan 1, 2012 to March 17, 2012 I would receive nothing from EI during that period.

It now appears that I was misinformed by the agent I spoke to previously when I asked about my EI benefits (as I have never been on it before). My understanding from the agent was that I would file my report as normal for the week covering March 19th to April 1 and begin receiving my EI benefits via direct deposit on April 3rd. This evening when I logged into my service canada account, it now states that I am in the 2 week waiting period and will continue to receive nothing...

Obviously the information I was given was wrong, and had I been aware of this, I would have certainly budgeted what little I had to stretch even further knowing that there would still be nothing from EI until mid-April.

My questions are this:
  • What happens to the money from that 2 week waiting period? If you qualify for 36 weeks, technically you will only ever be paid 34 because you lose 2 weeks of it automatically?
  • If my next report is due April 13th, and I submit it as always on the Friday, when will I actually receive my first deposit?
Thanks in advance!
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KrazEDesigns wrote:
Apr 1st, 2012 11:26 pm

My questions are this:
  • What happens to the money from that 2 week waiting period? If you qualify for 36 weeks, technically you will only ever be paid 34 because you lose 2 weeks of it automatically?
  • If my next report is due April 13th, and I submit it as always on the Friday, when will I actually receive my first deposit?
Thanks in advance!

1) every one has to serve a two week waiting period. There is no exception. You weren't paid earlier as your severance pay is allocated. Since you weren't paid for the two week waiting period, it has no impact on your entitlement weeks. In your example, you are still entitled to 36 weeks.

2) you should get it by Tuesday morning.
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The two-week waiting period is like an insurance deductible. You do not receive any funds for this period. More info is on the Service Canada website.
Direct Deposit occurs two days after your reports are processed. Reports are processed Sunday - Thursday late afternoon.
So if you complete a report on Friday the 13th, your report will be processed Sunday the 15th and you will receive your direct deposit two days later (Tuesday the 17th). Again, check the Service Canada website for this info, it is all listed there.
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New to Employment Insurance here.

I am in Quebec.

Work history of permanent full time exempt positions for 13 years without ever having to apply for EI.

Now employer since 2008 has filed for bankruptcy March 6. Trustee, the day after the bankruptcy, has retained my services as a contractor (I bill them on an hourly rate) to finish up accounting work involving issuing ROEs, calculating vacation and wages still owing, collecting Receivables etc etc etc. For sure, this will way exceed the 40% of max benefits of extra earnings allowed on a weekly basis. Very fortunate they agreed on a decent bookkeeping hourly rate. I foresee working for them for another two weeks. Thereafter, they will let me know if they would like to do a year end in which case, I can be on for another month.

I did receive a sum equivalent to 3 weeks of vacation the day before the bankruptcy.

And in terms of termination pay in lieu of notice, we will have to see what we can claim with Commission des Normes de Travail vs WEPPA vs as a secured creditor/preferred unsecured creditor. This I imagine will be 1 or 2 more months down the road.

The following are questions arising from reading EI:

1. What the impact is of my earnings with the Trustee will be on my benefits? I understand I probably not receive benefits for the duration of the time I am contracted by the Trustee. But will this shorten my benefit period? (Not sure if I am using my lingo correctly.) Because if this will shorten the duration of my EI entitlements, maybe it isn't worth it to continue this stint. However, I would think that the Government would be happy and encourage that I am still working and financially sustained as long as I can even though these earnings are not insurable? Or perhaps there is a way to apply and file that will not impact? For example, applying for EI later? Or filing not available for work for those weeks? But for these options, I would like to understand the impact to my benefits and the time I am entitled.

2. In terms of vacation pay, will they delay my benefits by the 3 weeks I was paid? Therefore I should do all my contracted billings during this time period to minimize impact to EI? Or should I spread it out.

That's all for now. I will continue reading up on EI but these are pressing questions.

Thank you for doing this!
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phics wrote:
Apr 2nd, 2012 9:56 am

1. What the impact is of my earnings with the Trustee will be on my benefits? I understand I probably not receive benefits for the duration of the time I am contracted by the Trustee. But will this shorten my benefit period? (Not sure if I am using my lingo correctly.) Because if this will shorten the duration of my EI entitlements, maybe it isn't worth it to continue this stint. However, I would think that the Government would be happy and encourage that I am still working and financially sustained as long as I can even though these earnings are not insurable? Or perhaps there is a way to apply and file that will not impact? For example, applying for EI later? Or filing not available for work for those weeks? But for these options, I would like to understand the impact to my benefits and the time I am entitled.

2. In terms of vacation pay, will they delay my benefits by the 3 weeks I was paid? Therefore I should do all my contracted billings during this time period to minimize impact to EI? Or should I spread it out.

That's all for now. I will continue reading up on EI but these are pressing questions.

Thank you for doing this!

I will answer question #2 first. Yes, your vacation pay will be allocated for three weeks, and you won't be payable for EI benefits, therefore, it's most advantageous for you to work during these three weeks and earnings during these three weeks will have no impact on your claim. Remember though, if you have earning during the waiting period (week 4 and 5 in your case), all of it will be deducted from your subsequent payments (up to 3 weeks).

Regarding to question #1. Even if you exceed the 40% allowable earnings, some benefits may be payable; it's just all the amount you make over the allowable will be deducted dollar by dollar from your benefits. However, if your weekly earning exceeds your EI rate + 40%, NO benefit will be payable. You don't lose that week.

In your particular case, if you can finish all contracted work before 3 weeks, then you should apply immediately (week 1-3 is not payable, week 4-5 is waiting period, and get paid on week 6). If you still have plenty of work on week 4 and 5, then it's probably best you apply on week 6 (your claim will start on week 6, and week 6+7 will serve as your waiting period and you get paid on week 8). The only risky part here is that you may lose some insurable hours, but if you have well over 1820 hours on ROE, you will be fine.
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Hello,

I just need a few words of advice about how I should proceed with a problem. Here's the issue,...I finished a YES contract on March.31st 2011 and then applied for and received EI benefits until I received my last payment in the middle of October,2011 when I stopped filing reports. The problem is, I started a new contract in the middle of September 2011 and filled out two online reports after the start date on my ROE... So I was over payed full benefits twice. I honestly am just an idiot and was just misinformed about my weekly EI reports. I didn't realize I was in the wrong and thought I stop filling out reports after I get paid or when I was sure I was going to stay. (I went into work on the 12th of September and was offered the job but wasn't sure I was going to stay for another contract. I started off just getting the paperwork ready and ended up just staying for another contract until March 2012, just a few days ago. After doing much research, 6 or 7 months after the fact, I realize I should not have filed those reports. I received money I was not entitled to. I just applied for EI benefits again with over 1200 hours on this contract. I had to call to eliminate my last claim which still had a few weeks payable on it, deciding a new claim is in my best interest. I'm a university graduate and I am willing and able to work, and am currently looking for opportunities. I put the proper start date on my new EI application but will I be red flagged when it shows I continued to receive payments for 3 or 4 weeks after that? Does this show when you file your income tax or when applying for new benefits? How can I be penalized or prosecuted? Can I do anything here to make amends...like, should I call someone and tell them what happened?...or wait until they contact me? I'm very regretful about this whole situation and it really wasn't done fraudulently or maliciously to get more money. I'm young and have never been on EI before and didn't even understand what the payments were. Like, I thought that my payments and my benefit rate was what I paid into it over the years and it didn't really matter how I received it. I know the questions directly asked "did you work" during the week and I lied and said no...not really thinking much about it. What do I do? I'm scared and I've never been in trouble with the law or government. Is this a big deal? Please help me. I'm so anxiety ridden now, I don't know what to do with myself. Thanks for any words of advice. I really am a good kid...just stupid I guess.

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