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Newbie
Dec 29, 2015
2 posts
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Toronto, ON
Hi everyone! I am here to seek help with some questions about best weeks calculation.

1. How do I calculate my best weeks since all my pay cheques were bi-weekly basis and/or monthly basis? Every week I work different amount of hours or sometimes same hours but always get different amount of pay for the same job...
2. What if my pay period is not from Sunday to Saturday? How do I calculate? One of my job pays from Wed - Tues, the other from Fri - Thurs.
3. I am still waiting for a couple more pay cheques to be mailed to me as I just finished my contract this week. If I wait till I receive all the paperwork it would be to late to apply for EI (after 4 weeks of the last day on the job); if I apply now, I wouldn't be able to calculate my last couple weeks pay amount. What is the best way?

Please help! Thanks a lot!
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Nov 21, 2011
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Eric1010 wrote:
Sep 22nd, 2016 4:27 pm
clseea wrote:
Sep 22nd, 2016 2:14 am
Eric1010 wrote:
Sep 21st, 2016 2:36 pm
Hi guys, quick question. For special EI, will they deduct vacation pay?

My wife will have her contract end soon and she won't renew it due to her pregnancy. She doesn't plan to get regular EI, but maternal EI 8 weeks before her expected due date. I assume she doesn't need her ROE to apply EI in that case? Will maternal EI also deduct her pay dollar to dollar from her vacation or any bonus/compensation she may receive?
Vacation pay will be allocated like normal, delaying the start of her claim. Different bonuses affect things differently so will need more specifics
Thanks clseea! Can I ask why vacation pay will affect special EI? I don't think my wife needs to show the ROE to claim maternal EI right? In principle EI shouldn't know about my wife's vacation pay?
Why wouldn't it affect EI? It's money she's earned through employment.

The ROE is required for any type of benefits, how else would a claim be established?

What principle are you talking about?
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Nov 21, 2011
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janine5683 wrote:
Sep 22nd, 2016 4:21 pm
Hi,

I have a question about "Total Weeks of Regular Entitlement."

I got laid off mid-April. I applied for EI, but didn't end up receiving benefits because of the severance package I received and I got a job in mid-May.

I got laid off AGAIN (!!) in August so I reapplied for EI, and I am now receiving benefits.

Before these two layoffs I worked full time for 10 years, with the exception of that 4-week period where I was unemployed but also NOT receiving EI.

My Service Canada Account says I get only 18 weeks of benefits. Is that right? Is it so low because I'm in Toronto?

Thakns.
I'm guessing an entirely new claim got established instead of the initial one being reactivated. You'll need to call in to be sure, and to have things corrected. If I'm right, expect it to take forever to get corrected
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Nov 21, 2011
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Edmonton
wmnmac wrote:
Sep 22nd, 2016 3:35 pm
I have a question about ei hour eligibility. I need to know if these hours will count towards ei even though I quit a job with what I believe to be just cause. I was working for a company this summer and after a month of working had only worked for 82 hours. So my ROE states that I worked for 82 hours for a month and the reason for issue was "quit- found another job" the job I found was for 12 weeks at 40 hrs per week.

So even though I quit. I quit for a job with full time hours. The first job was never a full time gig either it was seasonal. And the 2nd job contract with layoff at the end.

Do the hours count?
Possibly
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Nov 21, 2011
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s5gu1003 wrote:
Sep 22nd, 2016 4:55 pm
Hi everyone! I am here to seek help with some questions about best weeks calculation.

1. How do I calculate my best weeks since all my pay cheques were bi-weekly basis and/or monthly basis? Every week I work different amount of hours or sometimes same hours but always get different amount of pay for the same job...
2. What if my pay period is not from Sunday to Saturday? How do I calculate? One of my job pays from Wed - Tues, the other from Fri - Thurs.
3. I am still waiting for a couple more pay cheques to be mailed to me as I just finished my contract this week. If I wait till I receive all the paperwork it would be to late to apply for EI (after 4 weeks of the last day on the job); if I apply now, I wouldn't be able to calculate my last couple weeks pay amount. What is the best way?

Please help! Thanks a lot!
1. You'll need to do the math on a weekly basis
2. Same thing. Sunday to Saturday.
3. Apply now. Do the math for the hours worked.

There's not really any other way around any of your questions. EI will simply average things if you don't calculate earnings yourself
Newbie
Nov 10, 2007
1 posts
Vancouver
Along with everyone else at my company, I was terminated last week when the company went into receivership and the receivers fired everyone. Within a few days I was hired by another company on a six-month contract. The relationship might well come to an end due to lack of work at the end of that period. I didn't submit my EI claim before I started working the contract - can I still submit it with my original employer's ROE now, or do I need to wait until this contract is up? If I need to wait, will I get a shorter period of EI if I need it at the end of the six months?

Thanks for any advice!
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Nov 21, 2011
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Wulfy wrote:
Sep 23rd, 2016 12:22 am
Along with everyone else at my company, I was terminated last week when the company went into receivership and the receivers fired everyone. Within a few days I was hired by another company on a six-month contract. The relationship might well come to an end due to lack of work at the end of that period. I didn't submit my EI claim before I started working the contract - can I still submit it with my original employer's ROE now, or do I need to wait until this contract is up? If I need to wait, will I get a shorter period of EI if I need it at the end of the six months?

Thanks for any advice!
You haven't experienced an interruption of earnings so you can't apply now anyways. Apply after your contract is up, the hours from both employers will be used so no you won't be short changed
Sr. Member
Jul 21, 2009
542 posts
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Toronto
Hi guys. Two questions please

I have been filling out EI reports for the past 3 periods and haven't received any money yet.. does it normally take this long or should i continue to be patient?

Also I will be going on vacation for 3 weeks shortly and the dates will pour over 3 EI reporting periods. Will I be losing my benefits for all 6 weeks or will they give me partial payments for the days I am away. Thank you.
Newbie
Sep 26, 2016
2 posts
First of all, thanks to all those involved in the creation and continued operation of this thread - it's been of great help to me in the past, especially given how uninformative the Service Canada website has proven to be.

So here goes...

Laid off at the start of the month, applied for EI and already approved. What I didn't realize, however, is that any money earned during the 2 week waiting period is deducted dollar for dollar from the first three weeks of entitlement (in other words, I thought I would be proactive and take on some part time hours through a temp agency after I was laid off (earned around $600 during those two weeks), only to now realize that I would have been better off, from an EI perspective, to just sit at home and do nothing).

Last week was theoretically my first week of entitlement (benefit rate of $537), but I received nothing as I had my vacation pay (which was only for around $200) and a bit of earnings through the agency (also for around $200) to contend with.

So I guess my question is, does the dollar for dollar deduction take precedence (ie. meaning it wouldn't have mattered what my earnings were for that week, the full benefit rate was going to be applied to the amount owing), or do they just take what I would've received and used that to reduce the amount owing? For example, if I put in less than the allowable number of hours this week (say 32 hours), would they apply the deduction to the full benefit rate (ie. subtract the $537 from the $600 I made during the waiting period?) in which case I would get nothing for this week anyways? Or would they apply it to what I would have received (subtract an EI payment of around $250 from the $600)? I'm just worried that I'll be anticipating at least a partial payment for Week 3 and end up with nothing...

Service Canada offers no real explanation as to how the report breaks down (and never mind trying to get through on the phone), hence the question.

Thanks in advance for any insight into the matter.
Member
Jul 29, 2009
201 posts
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Hi OP

Quick question, I am currently on EI and my claim has over 40 weeks remaining on it. I have the potential opportunity to take a 1-2 month temporary full time position (no offer yet but hopefully coming). If i was to take this I would be on company payroll on an hourly basis.
  1. Would i still continue to fill out EI reports bi weekly and state earnings or would I have to shut down my EI claim and reactivate it upon the end of my temp employment
  2. Would I have to do another two week waiting period if I do have to shut down and reactivate my claim
Thanks for any help
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Nov 21, 2011
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Edmonton
submarine wrote:
Sep 27th, 2016 11:00 pm
Hi guys. Two questions please

I have been filling out EI reports for the past 3 periods and haven't received any money yet.. does it normally take this long or should i continue to be patient?
You probably received some sort of separation money that is preventing payment. Check your My Service Canada Account for an itemized list of your reports.
Also I will be going on vacation for 3 weeks shortly and the dates will pour over 3 EI reporting periods. Will I be losing my benefits for all 6 weeks or will they give me partial payments for the days I am away. Thank you.
You'll lose benefits for the time period you're away, and the days you're travelling.
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Nov 21, 2011
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hugh613 wrote:
Sep 27th, 2016 11:14 pm
First of all, thanks to all those involved in the creation and continued operation of this thread - it's been of great help to me in the past, especially given how uninformative the Service Canada website has proven to be.

So here goes...

Laid off at the start of the month, applied for EI and already approved. What I didn't realize, however, is that any money earned during the 2 week waiting period is deducted dollar for dollar from the first three weeks of entitlement (in other words, I thought I would be proactive and take on some part time hours through a temp agency after I was laid off (earned around $600 during those two weeks), only to now realize that I would have been better off, from an EI perspective, to just sit at home and do nothing).

Last week was theoretically my first week of entitlement (benefit rate of $537), but I received nothing as I had my vacation pay (which was only for around $200) and a bit of earnings through the agency (also for around $200) to contend with.

So I guess my question is, does the dollar for dollar deduction take precedence (ie. meaning it wouldn't have mattered what my earnings were for that week, the full benefit rate was going to be applied to the amount owing), or do they just take what I would've received and used that to reduce the amount owing? For example, if I put in less than the allowable number of hours this week (say 32 hours), would they apply the deduction to the full benefit rate (ie. subtract the $537 from the $600 I made during the waiting period?) in which case I would get nothing for this week anyways? Or would they apply it to what I would have received (subtract an EI payment of around $250 from the $600)? I'm just worried that I'll be anticipating at least a partial payment for Week 3 and end up with nothing...

Service Canada offers no real explanation as to how the report breaks down (and never mind trying to get through on the phone), hence the question.

Thanks in advance for any insight into the matter.
The amount you earn (vacation pay, work etc) is deducted dollar for dollar until the weekly benefit rate amount is hit. If you have earnings in excess of your weekly benefit rate, it will carry over to the following week.
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Nov 21, 2011
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craigsol wrote:
Sep 28th, 2016 3:50 pm
Hi OP

Quick question, I am currently on EI and my claim has over 40 weeks remaining on it. I have the potential opportunity to take a 1-2 month temporary full time position (no offer yet but hopefully coming). If i was to take this I would be on company payroll on an hourly basis.
  1. Would i still continue to fill out EI reports bi weekly and state earnings or would I have to shut down my EI claim and reactivate it upon the end of my temp employment
  2. Would I have to do another two week waiting period if I do have to shut down and reactivate my claim
Thanks for any help
1. Up to you. It's often easier to keep reporting and have your claim up and running rather than shut it down and deal with reactivating it when you're done work.
2. Not if you've already served your waiting period. There's only one per claim
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Sep 26, 2016
2 posts
clseea wrote:
Sep 28th, 2016 9:47 pm
The amount you earn (vacation pay, work etc) is deducted dollar for dollar until the weekly benefit rate amount is hit. If you have earnings in excess of your weekly benefit rate, it will carry over to the following week.
Thanks for the response. So, in your opinion, it would go something like this (using my 1st week as an example): Benefit rate of $537 and made $200 that week, so $537-($200*.50)=$437. Then subtract vacation pay, dollar for dollar from that amount and, if there's anything left over, begin subtracting earnings from the waiting period until it hits zero, and then move on to Week No.2 and repeat the process.

Guess the lesson here is don't work during the waiting period unless you absolutely have to.

Thanks.
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Nov 21, 2011
8308 posts
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Edmonton
hugh613 wrote:
Sep 28th, 2016 10:13 pm
clseea wrote:
Sep 28th, 2016 9:47 pm
The amount you earn (vacation pay, work etc) is deducted dollar for dollar until the weekly benefit rate amount is hit. If you have earnings in excess of your weekly benefit rate, it will carry over to the following week.
Thanks for the response. So, in your opinion, it would go something like this (using my 1st week as an example): Benefit rate of $537 and made $200 that week, so $537-($200*.50)=$437. Then subtract vacation pay, dollar for dollar from that amount and, if there's anything left over, begin subtracting earnings from the waiting period until it hits zero, and then move on to Week No.2 and repeat the process.

Guess the lesson here is don't work during the waiting period unless you absolutely have to.

Thanks.
Pretty much except your earnings are deducted dollar for dollar on your waiting period, not the 50% rate

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