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employment support after graduation?

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employment support after graduation?

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Last edited by jonmarrow on Dec 3rd, 2014 9:55 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Cool story bro, but what exactly is your question??

You failed to mention your major/specialization.

You from Milton...? Well duh your commute will be LONG. Most jobs are in Toronto.

You got any experience bro?
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donatepresent wrote: Cool story bro, but what exactly is your question??

You failed to mention your major/specialization.

You from Milton...? Well duh your commute will be LONG. Most jobs are in Toronto.

You got any experience bro?
Dont be like this and help him out.......
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jonmarrow wrote: Hi

I'm new to the forum so apologies in advance if I post this in the wrong section. I am just here to learn about other people's experiences and to get advice regarding seeking employment after graduation.

So basically, I graduated from York University with an honors degree in Business Management and graduated in June 2014. I've graduated fairly on time and was just a little above average student (mostly B's and B+'s).

However, I am having somewhat of a tough time transitioning from university to work life. I am still unemployed since I graduated in June and its really getting me worried lately. I'm not saying that going to university was a hopeless idea or anything negative like that since I come across people who studied similar programs and have kicked off their careers in really good companies.

I've probably applied to two hundred entry level positions within Toronto both related to my field and casual retail jobs as well as employment agencies but besides an abundance of rejection e-mails, I've only heard back from eleven. Of those eleven, I've probably given interviews to about five, including employment agencies, and the reason I did not give interviews to other jobs is that once I learn more about jobs that want to interview me, I realize it's not a good match and I should not have applied in the first place. For example, it's in retail sales, seasonal, commission based, has odd hours, long commute time, and so I just back out.

But now I am this point where I have decided to just grab any opportunity and to even ignore the secondary factors like commute time, seasonal not seasonal etc. I know we're always trained not to sound desperate in job search but I truly am desperate now. I feel more and more depressed with each passing day that I'm not utilizing my time in a productive manner and I feel like since its been so long since I have been out of that structure that university offers, I am starting to loose everything I had gained from there; confidence, professional growth, academics etc

So since I'm at this point, I was just wondering if anyone would like to recommend some good employment support forums out there where I can be part of a community with people going through similar situations. I happened to apply to Tim Hortons this week and just needed quick advice about it's interview process. Like if they call me and ask me why I am applying here, do I still maintain the same level of professionalism like I do with other jobs where I reply great work environment or support Tim's strategic goals or just be honest and say that I'm looking to get a source of income?

Thank you!

We all been there at one point or another where we had to transition from Uni life to work/real life. Its tough and it can get you down.

All i can suggest is to go out of your zone and look for a job. There are other places that hire new grads like in MB or SK. Ya it sucks to move out of the GTA, but you like anyone else is a dime a dozen in this city. A city where they produce thousands of Business grads each year on top of new grads coming from other cities and countries competing for the same job. Its not easy. Your resume is 2 pages and it doesnt seperate you from the other thousands of applicants.

There is opprotunity ofcourse, you just gotta focus on what you want to do.
Im sure you may have a love or interest in a field. I know, myself, included that when i finished school..i came out thinking i can do the jack of all trades..just need to get in there first. If they need me in Pharmacutical i can do that, or some construction company....i can do that......but i then realized for pharmacutical corp i need a science major...for construction corp i would need some engineering background and that i dont have. All B school really taught me was the business fundamentals and case studies... i needed more!

I do regret, that i had an interest but it took a while to get in because they wanted experience and a whole other major. Dont give up. Be persistant and try to knock on some doors. It will take its time. My first job after school in Fall 2008 was in June 2010 and i actually scored to jobs and was making some really good dough + experience. I did have a job before hand in University and it was with a large government agency, but the experience there was useless....i just had to be on ball...looking on job sites daily...

my best bet for 2010s is to look elsewhere. GTA is packed and not getting anymore prettier.
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Places like Tims won't ask you why you are applying there with a degree. In fact, many of their employees do have degrees. They might just ask where you see yourself in five years.
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Purgatory wrote: Places like Tims won't ask you why you are applying there with a degree. In fact, many of their employees do have degrees. They might just ask where you see yourself in five years.
OK. Thanks for the advice.
Appak02 wrote: We all been there at one point or another where we had to transition from Uni life to work/real life. Its tough and it can get you down.

All i can suggest is to go out of your zone and look for a job. There are other places that hire new grads like in MB or SK. Ya it sucks to move out of the GTA, but you like anyone else is a dime a dozen in this city. A city where they produce thousands of Business grads each year on top of new grads coming from other cities and countries competing for the same job. Its not easy. Your resume is 2 pages and it doesnt seperate you from the other thousands of applicants.

There is opprotunity ofcourse, you just gotta focus on what you want to do.
Im sure you may have a love or interest in a field. I know, myself, included that when i finished school..i came out thinking i can do the jack of all trades..just need to get in there first. If they need me in Pharmacutical i can do that, or some construction company....i can do that......but i then realized for pharmacutical corp i need a science major...for construction corp i would need some engineering background and that i dont have. All B school really taught me was the business fundamentals and case studies... i needed more!

I do regret, that i had an interest but it took a while to get in because they wanted experience and a whole other major. Dont give up. Be persistant and try to knock on some doors. It will take its time. My first job after school in Fall 2008 was in June 2010 and i actually scored to jobs and was making some really good dough + experience. I did have a job before hand in University and it was with a large government agency, but the experience there was useless....i just had to be on ball...looking on job sites daily...

my best bet for 2010s is to look elsewhere. GTA is packed and not getting anymore prettier.
Thank you so much for taking out the time to provide some valuable advice. It really means a lot when someone has some encouraging words to share and that I'm not alone in this situation.

Thanks again!
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First, let me say, don't worry. Keep applying. Your GPA isn't fantastic so nobody will be giving you interviews based on your GPA alone. Keep at it and you'll find something. I have friends in Accounting with C averages and they manage to find an Accounting job too. It just takes them a few more months and a few hundred more attempts than others.

Second, here's a trick I use to find companies to apply for:
Find a list of companies in an industry you're interested in -> Google each and every one -> Visit their career's page -> Apply
How do you find such lists?
1. Wikipedia maintains lists of companies in certain fields
2. Vault top companies in X industry
3. Industry association websites (they sometimes publish list of members)

Even then, you might not find something. Finding employment in Canada is tough, man. Even though I focused on looking for jobs in Canada, I ended up moving to the States for work =X
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Having work experience will give you a good leg up.

If you don't have work experience, get some. Anywhere.
If you have work experience, start to leverage that to gain more focused experience in your field.
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If you're applying to timmys why would you even list a post secondary degree on a resume, that's just plain shameful and would actually reduce the chances of you getting hired.
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JuliTheNub wrote: First, let me say, don't worry. Keep applying. Your GPA isn't fantastic so nobody will be giving you interviews based on your GPA alone. K
Every job I have ever done an interview for they have never asked me for my GPA. I, too, graduated with a 4.0. I don't think employers care..
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^ Some employers do state GPA on their requirements (e.g. Big 4 accounting firms) but they consider other factors (personality, volunteer and extracurricular activities - leadership roles are a bonus and previous work experience).

OP have you tried looking at Career Edge? They offer internships targeting new graduates with little to no experience although the pay is a monthly stipend of $2200 before deductions. More information here: https://www.careeredge.ca/en/faq

There is also the Youth Employment Fund program as well: http://www.tcu.gov.on.ca/eng/employment ... youthfund/

As mentioned above, it would help to specify your major and experience (work, volunteer and extracurricular activities) prior to graduation. You may need to have your resume, cover letter and interview skills reviewed too.
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Purgatory wrote: Every job I have ever done an interview for they have never asked me for my GPA. I, too, graduated with a 4.0. I don't think employers care..
They care as in, if you do not meet a minimum, you would never get the interview.

Also depends on where you apply, your major, etc... Actually have been to an interview where the interviewer made it quite clear I got the interview based on grades alone. Didn't get the job tho :P
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Take advantage of your business school's career centre:

http://www.schulich.yorku.ca/client/Sch ... enDocument

When you graduate from the Schulich School of Business, it is not the end of your relationship with The Career Development Centre (CDC)…. It is just the beginning! We are proud to offer you, as an Alumnus, a wide range of services that will support you throughout all the stages of your career and throughout your lifetime. After all, career management is a lifelong necessity. Highlights of these services include:

- Job Postings (CareerQuest and Additional External Job Sites)
- Career Development (Industry Specialists)
- Events Listings (Networking Events, Workshops)
- Research Tools (Vault, Wetfeet)
- International Career Websites
- Other Tools and Resources
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I know york has a Career Centre and you can visit an employment adviser. They also have Resume, Cover Letter, Job Search Strategies workshops. It doesn't hurt to visit them. Keep on trying.

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