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Empty iPhone Box - Scammed off Kijiji

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Aug 14, 2010
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Brampton

Empty iPhone Box - Scammed off Kijiji

I already know I'm an idiot for sending out an e-mail transfer for something before receiving the product but I had found someone selling an iPhone 7 Plus from Regina on Kijiji.

He sent me a picture of the IMEI and Serial Number from the box. Checked on Apple's warranty website - everything checks out. Phone hasn't been activated yet. I checked the serial number again today on Apple's website and it shows warranty until August 22, 2018 meaning someone activated the phone on August 22, 2017 the day it was shipped out.

I send him the money. He sends me the tracking information. I get the parcel today and it ends up being everything with the box and accessories all brand new except the phone was taken out. The parcel shipping slip says 0.296kg on the parcel so I went to Canada Post and weighed the package as is and it was 0.296kg so that means the parcel was shipped out from Regina with the phone removed to begin with.

Contacted the seller and he said it may have been taken out by a CP employee during shipping, blames the person working at the Canada Post office where he shipped from, etc. He refuses to send me a picture of the receipt which I know will have the weight of the package on it AND he refused to put the return address on the package so I know he's the one who took out the phone. Haven't received a refund yet either. I'll be filing a police report with my local police station here and I called Regina Police and they said they can't take a report from me directly since I'm so far away but my local police will be able to forward it to them.

Here's all the info I have from the guy if anyone can help track down a real name or address or new phone number as his old one says not assigned now but he says it's because he's "in the USA with a different SIM right now":

Name he provided me and wrote on the parcel: Mason Sanford
E-mail I sent the e-mail transfer to: mduprasca@outlook.com
Phone Number: 306-880-5940 (It says not assigned when calling but WhatsApp messages still go through to him at this number and he is replying to them on there)
Address of post office he shipped it from: 420 Albert Street, Regina, Saskatchewan, S4R 3J0

Any help or advice at all would be appreciated. I also have the Serial Number and IMEI of the phone if anyone can trace the iCloud e-mail address it might be linked to using that information.

Thank you in advance.
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This is really unfortunate OP, but I don't know what to say.
Way to many red flags that were obvious from the get go.
E-transfer=Fail
Fake US number = Fail
Fake email= Fail
Fake name=Fail

I'm guessing the offer was to good to be true so you decided to take the plunge = Fail.
Good luck, hope the police do something, they probably won't but at least this makes you learn a lesson the hard way!
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[OP]
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Number wasn't a USA one. It was a local Regina, SK number plus he gave me the exact IMEI and Serial Number which all checked out before he sent them. Even the box he sent was the same ones. Just with the phone removed.
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jasbains. wrote:
Aug 28th, 2017 7:06 pm
I already know I'm an idiot for sending out an e-mail transfer for something before receiving the product but I had found someone selling an iPhone 7 Plus from Regina on Kijiji.

He sent me a picture of the IMEI and Serial Number from the box. Checked on Apple's warranty website - everything checks out. Phone hasn't been activated yet. I checked the serial number again today on Apple's website and it shows warranty until August 22, 2018 meaning someone activated the phone on August 22, 2017 the day it was shipped out.

I send him the money. He sends me the tracking information. I get the parcel today and it ends up being everything with the box and accessories all brand new except the phone was taken out. The parcel shipping slip says 0.296kg on the parcel so I went to Canada Post and weighed the package as is and it was 0.296kg so that means the parcel was shipped out from Regina with the phone removed to begin with.

Contacted the seller and he said it may have been taken out by a CP employee during shipping, blames the person working at the Canada Post office where he shipped from, etc. He refuses to send me a picture of the receipt which I know will have the weight of the package on it AND he refused to put the return address on the package so I know he's the one who took out the phone. Haven't received a refund yet either. I'll be filing a police report with my local police station here and I called Regina Police and they said they can't take a report from me directly since I'm so far away but my local police will be able to forward it to them.

Here's all the info I have from the guy if anyone can help track down a real name or address or new phone number as his old one says not assigned now but he says it's because he's "in the USA with a different SIM right now":

Name he provided me and wrote on the parcel: Mason Sanford
E-mail I sent the e-mail transfer to: mduprasca@outlook.com
Phone Number: 306-880-5940 (It says not assigned when calling but WhatsApp messages still go through to him at this number and he is replying to them on there)
Address of post office he shipped it from: 420 Albert Street, Regina, Saskatchewan, S4R 3J0

Any help or advice at all would be appreciated. I also have the Serial Number and IMEI of the phone if anyone can trace the iCloud e-mail address it might be linked to using that information.

Thank you in advance.
Collect screen shots or logs from emails/Whatapp and print them. Go to the police station with printed documentation, screen shots, chat logs, the iPhone box, the shipping label/packaging, etc. and tell them you would like to report fraud.

They'll file a police report and potentially be able to bring up any surveillance camera footage during the investigation at the post office where the person mailed the package.

This could take weeks to complete and nothing may come out of it even if they do have the suspect on camera. Usually though, these guys may commit multiple instances of fraud, so if that's the case then they could speed up the investigation.

Good luck OP, hopefully you're able to get your money back or at least see this guy prosecuted for his crime.
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jasbains. wrote:
Aug 28th, 2017 7:06 pm
Address of post office he shipped it from: 420 Albert Street, Regina, Saskatchewan, S4R 3J0

Any help or advice at all would be appreciated. I also have the Serial Number and IMEI of the phone if anyone can trace the iCloud e-mail address it might be linked to using that information.

Thank you in advance.
I wouldn't call you an idiot. It sounds like you did your due diligence.

Why don't you call the postal outlet at that address, explain your story and ask the person to ask their co-workers if they remember the guy who mailed that parcel? Who knows, the scammer could be a regular there. Workers tend to be friendly. When my wallet was stolen, I went to the store where my credit card was used and I got a good description of the thief from the clerk.

That outlet is in a pretty downscale neighbourhood so I doubt that the scammer is a criminal mastermind. My wife grew up there and we visited last month for old time's sake.
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Your money is gone. Police won't do anything. Expensive lesson learned.
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Hard to believer someone actually send money to someone FIRST before they get anything from kijiji...
Kijiji is strictly for meet up in person only.
I dont think theres anyway you can get your money back at this point even EMT you can add multiple different email address.
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johnmoon wrote:
Oct 17th, 2017 4:28 pm
Hard to believer someone actually send money to someone FIRST before they get anything from kijiji...
Kijiji is strictly for meet up in person only.
I dont think theres anyway you can get your money back at this point even EMT you can add multiple different email address.
You'd be surprised. I have sold quite a handful of things (not high profile items like phones, but still) through Kijiji where the buyer requested I ship it to them, and agree when I tell them I only take EMT. Granted, the most expensive package I've done this way was only a couple hundred bucks, but these deals do exist.
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Jon Lai wrote:
Nov 6th, 2017 10:14 pm
You'd be surprised. I have sold quite a handful of things (not high profile items like phones, but still) through Kijiji where the buyer requested I ship it to them, and agree when I tell them I only take EMT. Granted, the most expensive package I've done this way was only a couple hundred bucks, but these deals do exist.
I've done this as well too! 300-400$ items, I usually printed a shipping label and then showed them pictures of the package and once they sent the money I mailed the item!
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Try and get Apple to iCloud lock it.
Gbill2004: Thanks but I'll just smell the couch before/if I buy it.

jonnyb: I go in there like PICASSO and toss the glue everywhere, I don't care what house I'm on.
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Jerico wrote:
May 29th, 2018 10:40 pm
Try and get Apple to iCloud lock it.
Apple is not going to get involved and it can't be blacklisted by the op.

Btw, this post is nine months old?
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audit13 wrote:
May 30th, 2018 10:31 pm
Apple is not going to get involved and it can't be blacklisted by the op.

Btw, this post is nine months old?
Saw that after the fact... :(
Gbill2004: Thanks but I'll just smell the couch before/if I buy it.

jonnyb: I go in there like PICASSO and toss the glue everywhere, I don't care what house I'm on.
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Jerico wrote:
May 30th, 2018 11:56 pm
Saw that after the fact... :(
It's all good :) Serves as a good reminder that buying off Kijiji comes with certain risks.

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