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Ever tried a telephoto lens?

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Ever tried a telephoto lens?

I am a casual amateur photographer that is on a tight budget. I currently uses a Canon M with a F2 22mm lens. I want a bit more zoom without paying a lot.

I am looking at 2 options. 1 is a telephoto lens for $25 like this one, to screw onto my F2 22mm lens.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B008MM0UKI/?co ... _lig_dp_it

The other is a 3rd party 50mm manual lens for $100.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B078WGL4GN/?co ... _lig_dp_it

Being cheap, I want to try the telephoto lens. But I have no experience with these. Are these any good?
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Basically, both are crap. I would expect massive distortion and flaring from these lenses.
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I would suggest that you consider buying a vintage manual focus lens in whatever focal length interests you and then buy the appropriate adaptor on eBay or Amazon to make it work with your camera.

My camera is a Sony mirrorless but the principle is the same. I have purchased several old manual focus lenses (Canon, Nikon, Minolta, Takumar, etc.). simple adaptors for each brand are available for $10 - $25 - although costs are low shipping times often from China can take up to 2 months. The lenses can be found on eBay, Kijiji, in pawn shops and thrift stores. Some of them are amazing - some not so much (there are lots of reviews of vintage lenses online and on YouTube to help you pick out good ones . Many lenses are solid metal and glass - far better construction than most of today's lenses.
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Never tried them, but at this price, the optic for your option 1 must be really bad. I'm usually OK with adapters since I had a great experience with Fuji's. It's a teleconverter that changes the 23mm into 33mm, if I recall correctly. Honestly, I can't tell if there's any drop in quality but it reflects in the price. I paid I think $350 at the time and it sells for $450 now...

As for option 2, a 50mm length lens has easier lens design than wider lenses, so it's usually easy for manufacturer to design a relatively sharp lens at low cost. That's why the cheapest entry level fast primes are usually at 50mm. The Opteka will probably match any vintage lenses at the same price range. I have a $99 Chinese branded manual lens at 35mm F1.7 and in term of sharpness, it's pretty good for the price. My lens do lack a lot of contrast. I don't use it at all anymore but if I'm on a tight budget, it's a pretty good option. Or go with bvit6667' suggestion. That way, you can get some real telephoto lenses (100mm and above) at a cheap price.
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IMHO most, if not all vintage name brand 50mm lenses will beat the pants off of the Meike 50mm. As an example there is a fairly highly rated Konica 40mm F1.8 "Pancake" lens that is frequently available on eBay for under $100 Cdn (in excellent condtion). Here is a review followed by a review of the Meike on the same site:

http://erphotoreview.com/wordpress/?p=1902

https://www.ephotozine.com/article/meik ... view-29396

That Konica lens is fairly highly regarded and is very compact.

You should also consider 50mm prime lenses made by Nikon (the "e" series are very good values), Minolta and Pentax...heck, as Gin Martini mentioned, the 50mm primes were easy for manufacturers to design and manufacture so many are optically excellent. Probably the sharpest lens I own is an old manual focus Pentax Takumar 50mm F1.4. The old lenses give up a little in flair control as their lens coatings are, for the most part, inferior to today's lenses, but they are often far better made - often all metal and built to last a life-time.
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OP, that's like going from 35mm (22 x1.6) to 80mm (50mm x1.6) FF equivalent, just use your feet unless your 22mm produces a lot of perspective distortion or there are barriers to getting closer.

You'll be disappointed by those cheap lenses, no autofocus, poor IQ. What is it that you're shooting requiring a telephoto? You may want a higher focal length.
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I see that the EF-M 55-200mm is on sale for $380. Is this considered a good deal for this lens? I would probably wait a bit since this is above my current budget. Maybe next year. XD

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00L7SO7WQ/?co ... _lig_dp_it
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CCHIPSS wrote:
Nov 23rd, 2018 7:58 pm
I see that the EF-M 55-200mm is on sale for $380. Is this considered a good deal for this lens? I would probably wait a bit since this is above my current budget. Maybe next year. XD

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00L7SO7WQ/?co ... _lig_dp_it
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It's the standard Canon telephoto for M, widest aperture at 55mm being f/4.5 shrinking down to f/6.3 at 200mm wide open.

Types of photos:
https://www.flickr.com/groups/canon_ef-m_55-200/pool/

If you want, you can go further with an adapter, will be heavy and pricey.

https://estore.canon.ca/en-CA/catalog/m ... ith-tripod
https://www.amazon.ca/Sigma-745101-150- ... on+150-600
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It's the standard Canon telephoto for M, widest aperture at 55mm being f/4.5 shrinking down to f/6.3 at 200mm wide open.

Types of photos:
https://www.flickr.com/groups/canon_ef-m_55-200/pool/

If you want, you can go further with an adapter, will be heavy and pricey.

https://estore.canon.ca/en-CA/catalog/m ... ith-tripod
https://www.amazon.ca/Sigma-745101-150- ... on+150-600
Thanks. I also see that they have the EF 75-300mm F4 for cheap at $100. Will this work with a cheap adaptor?

They have even cheaper lens if I look at FD mount. But I guess no auto anything and it will be all manual.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B00004THD ... SY340_QL65

https://www.amazon.ca/Gobe-Lens-Adapter ... th=1&psc=1
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Manual focus is tricky with stuff that moves, and best to buy/use the native Canon adapter for reliability.

To be honest, if I was sticking with your camera body, I would prefer using a native M tele like that 55-200. I want stuff that works all the time, no compromises, spend more, buy once mentality. It's not fun being out and changing lenses on the fly, throwing adapters into the mix, the experience should be 100% enjoyable.
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AncasterRFD wrote:
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Manual focus is tricky with stuff that moves, and best to buy/use the native Canon adapter for reliability.

To be honest, if I was sticking with your camera body, I would prefer using a native M tele like that 55-200. I want stuff that works all the time, no compromises, spend more, buy once mentality. It's not fun being out and changing lenses on the fly, throwing adapters into the mix, the experience should be 100% enjoyable.
I totally agree with you when your subjects are moving (especially children and wildlife) and in some other conditions. I'm just in it as a hobby. My subjects are often flowers or landscapes - using vintage glass via adapters adds a new dimension to my photography. It forces me to slow down and think more. Some of the old glass is capable of rendering images in a unique and interesting way. As an example, I have a lens from the 70's that is F1.8 wide open and has an 16 blade circular aperture - makes for some very cool pictures but it has taken some effort and time to learn how to use it.
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Someone is offering to sell me 2 EF lens, Canon 50mm f1.8 ii and Sigma 70-210mm UC1 f4, for $70 in total. The lens are older than 10 years and well used. Is this a good deal? I will need to buy an EF adaptor for my EOS M1, either 3rd party or an official Canon 2nd hand one.

What should I watch out for? I only know that I should check for obvious molds.

Hopefully the autofocus will be ok fast. But given how the M1 has trouble autofocusing with it's native 22mm f2, my hope is low haha. And I assume the autofocus motors lasts pretty long so I don't need to worry?
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CCHIPSS wrote:
Dec 12th, 2018 11:51 am
Someone is offering to sell me 2 Canon EF lens, 50mm f1.8 ii and 24-70mm, for $70 in total. The lens are older than 10 years and well used. Is this a good deal? I will need to buy a adaptor for my EOS M1, either 3rd party or an official Canon 2nd hand one.

What should I watch out for? I only know that I should check for obvious molds.

Hopefully the autofocus will be ok fast. But given how the M1 has trouble autofocusing with it's native 22mm f2, my hope is low haha. And I assume the autofocus motors lasts pretty long so I don't need to worry?
$70 or $700?
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Dec 12th, 2018 1:03 pm
$70 or $700?
$70
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CCHIPSS wrote:
Dec 12th, 2018 3:47 pm
$70
LoL, just grab it.

I guess make sure the focus motors work and check for mold or corrosion.

Maybe check if the coatings are still on the front element.

Worst case it looks pretty as a coaster.

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