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Apr 3, 2015
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I put a deposit down on one of these about a month ago. From the order guide forwarded to me, the MSRP starts at 43K. Dealer said they haven't finalized the rebate, but likely 9-9.3K. No info on battery size or range in the order guide.

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rmtrmt wrote:
Sep 12th, 2017 5:24 pm
From the Toronto Electric Vehicle Association Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/TEVAssociation/

" Great news is Mitsubishi Outlander finally arriving Feb 2018 with starting price of 42k minus approx 10k in on govt rebate and leasing will be available! 12kwh battery and Chademo fast charging will give you around 50km range!"

This would be the first SUV PHEV, but they should have put at least an 18kwh battery in there!
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Feb 6, 2017
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radeonboy wrote:
Sep 12th, 2017 2:22 pm
The ON government INTENDS to keep the program until 2022 or if the program funds are exhausted, but depends on if Liberal gov wins or loses next election around June. I'm in the same boat so most likely I'll try my best to use the rebate by first few months of 2018, but who really knows, the shortage of all the EVs suck right now.
I'm a little bit worried about this as well. My Tesla Model 3 is slated for a late 2018 delivery, most likely pushed into 2019. I wouldn't be able to afford this car if the gov't rebate is no longer available.
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HN12345 wrote:
Sep 13th, 2017 10:08 am
I'm a little bit worried about this as well. My Tesla Model 3 is slated for a late 2018 delivery, most likely pushed into 2019. I wouldn't be able to afford this car if the gov't rebate is no longer available.
If you cancel your order now, you may be lucky and receive your refund by the end of 2018! ;)
Up votes, down votes, they're all votes for me! I thank you!
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some1not wrote:
Sep 13th, 2017 10:18 am
If you cancel your order now, you may be lucky and receive your refund by the end of 2018! ;)
I fully intend on getting the Model 3, currently driving a BMW 328i so I'm into sporty cars. The look/image of the current EVs just don't do it for me. Tbh, I don't really see the incentives going away though even if the Liberals are not in power. This environmental movement is a big deal, I doubt they will pull the plug on this.
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HN12345 wrote:
Sep 13th, 2017 10:24 am
I fully intend on getting the Model 3, currently driving a BMW 328i so I'm into sporty cars. Tbh, I don't really see the incentives going away though even if the Liberals are not in power. This environmental movement is a big deal, I doubt they will pull the plug on this.
It won't. June 2018 is the election. Liberals are not sure to lose with the government backers.

Also, it probably takes a while to table or remove these green environment rules.

My daughter wants the iPhone X. I told her she can get one once I cancel my reservation for the M3.
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HN12345 wrote:
Sep 13th, 2017 10:24 am
I fully intend on getting the Model 3, currently driving a BMW 328i so I'm into sporty cars. The look/image of the current EVs just don't do it for me. Tbh, I don't really see the incentives going away though even if the Liberals are not in power. This environmental movement is a big deal, I doubt they will pull the plug on this.
Given the timing of the election and time it takes to reform and sitting of the house, I wouldn't expect any legislative change until the fall at the earliest (if it's going to happen).
Say, one year today.
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Jun 24, 2013
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Digging through the documents (http://www.forms.ssb.gov.on.ca/mbs/ssb/ ... _guide.pdf p. 10, section K), it appears that the EVIP is funded through the Public Transportation and Highway Improvement Act (section 118 (2)) which is at the Minister's discretion

"(2) On and after January 1, 1997, the Minister may, out of money appropriated therefor by the Legislature and upon such conditions as he or she considers advisable, provide grants, loans and other financial assistance to any person, including the council of a band, within the meaning of the Indian Act (Canada), and a municipal corporation, for specific projects that the Minister considers to be of provincial significance. 1996, c. 1, Sched. M, s. 68."

https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90p50#BK71

The new Minister of Transport, assuming the Liberals do get defeated, could withdraw funding the day they are sworn in if they so choose. Right now it's hypothetical, but if you're planning on buying an EV and the Liberals lose, you'll have a couple of weeks between election day and swearing in day to take delivery of your vehicle.
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I doubt anything would happen over the summer break.
Unless you think politicians would give up their summer break... hah!
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mf1982 wrote:
Sep 13th, 2017 3:52 pm
Digging through the documents (http://www.forms.ssb.gov.on.ca/mbs/ssb/ ... _guide.pdf p. 10, section K), it appears that the EVIP is funded through the Public Transportation and Highway Improvement Act (section 118 (2)) which is at the Minister's discretion

"(2) On and after January 1, 1997, the Minister may, out of money appropriated therefor by the Legislature and upon such conditions as he or she considers advisable, provide grants, loans and other financial assistance to any person, including the council of a band, within the meaning of the Indian Act (Canada), and a municipal corporation, for specific projects that the Minister considers to be of provincial significance. 1996, c. 1, Sched. M, s. 68."

https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90p50#BK71

The new Minister of Transport, assuming the Liberals do get defeated, could withdraw funding the day they are sworn in if they so choose. Right now it's hypothetical, but if you're planning on buying an EV and the Liberals lose, you'll have a couple of weeks between election day and swearing in day to take delivery of your vehicle.
That's why I have a delivery by June 1st clause in my egolf order. It's a little early, but I don't want to risk getting a car without a rebate.

On another note, Costco ships super fast. I ordered my charger last night and it is coming tomorrow.
Current cell plans:
Fido $15 3gb
Public Mobile $38/4gb
Koodo flaming hot 6s deal

Affordable wireless is possible, just takes some creativity.
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dgnr8 wrote:
Sep 13th, 2017 6:25 pm
On another note, Costco ships super fast. I ordered my charger last night and it is coming tomorrow.
Because they don't ship from Costco, direct from distributor.
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dgnr8 wrote:
Sep 13th, 2017 6:25 pm
That's why I have a delivery by June 1st clause in my egolf order. It's a little early, but I don't want to risk getting a car without a rebate.

On another note, Costco ships super fast. I ordered my charger last night and it is coming tomorrow.
To get the Gov't rebate for the charger you have to submit the request within three months of getting the EV rebate. How will you do that if the EV won't arrive for several more months?
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flyboy320 wrote:
Sep 13th, 2017 7:57 pm
To get the Gov't rebate for the charger you have to submit the request within three months of getting the EV rebate. How will you do that if the EV won't arrive for several more months?
I also ordered a Ford Focus ev back in March and it is arriving tomorrow. It took 6 months, but it is finally here! Now I start waiting for the e-golf.

By next summer we will be a fully ev family.
Current cell plans:
Fido $15 3gb
Public Mobile $38/4gb
Koodo flaming hot 6s deal

Affordable wireless is possible, just takes some creativity.
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Sep 5, 2009
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Anyone switch to the overnight plan with power stream? I am going to call tomorrow to make the switch.
Current cell plans:
Fido $15 3gb
Public Mobile $38/4gb
Koodo flaming hot 6s deal

Affordable wireless is possible, just takes some creativity.
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flyboy320 wrote:
Sep 13th, 2017 7:57 pm
To get the Gov't rebate for the charger you have to submit the request within three months of getting the EV rebate. How will you do that if the EV won't arrive for several more months?
That's not correct.
The charger rebate requires:
- must be submitted within three months of either (a) purchase date or (b) ESA inspection date (if getting it installed and inspected professionally).
- the car rebate to be submitted first, though you don't need to wait to receive the car rebate.
- the car must be registered and plated in ON.

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