Thanks.
so I called couple of stores and they all ask what kind of #3 do i need. cooper/alu/coated/with conductors. This is out of my area of expertise. What #3 do I need to have this rouhin done for future subpanel.
Apr 23rd, 2018 2:36 pm
Thanks.
Apr 24th, 2018 12:57 pm
The code doesn't say that you need 200A to install an EVSE, it's saying that as of 2018, new constructions in Ontario will need minimum 200A service (as well as conduit, outlet box, etc) to better support future EVSEs installations.KSYC wrote: ↑ According to this, you need a 200AMP panel for any EV charging in Ontario?
https://www.esasafe.com/contractors/res ... l-vehicles
Apr 24th, 2018 1:21 pm
Just go into hd or Lowe's they guy in the department will know when you explain what you are doing.
Apr 24th, 2018 6:56 pm
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Apr 25th, 2018 8:44 am
I was going to add a outlet. But I had that wire already there and when buying my charge point it was $40 more for the wire version, so I Hough why spend that and $20 in supplies for the outlet. So u choose hardwired.
Apr 25th, 2018 9:21 am
Plug if in the garage.
Apr 25th, 2018 9:37 am
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Apr 25th, 2018 9:53 am
Your electrician should have addressed these concerns during the install. Normally, a licensed electrician will strongly caution you against doing something if there's fear that it won't pass ESA.fromano wrote: ↑ I'm having an ESA inspection today for my JuiceBox install. I'm concerned it may not pass due to load size. I've got an A/C, 3000W wall stove, and Newer LG Dryer as my other big loads in an ~3400 square foot home. Based on my (non-expert) calculations it puts me right on the 100A calculation of my current panel; 99.6A based on my math.
Now my question is, I have the JB set to 14A so it doesn't draw more than 3300 watts for my load calculations; I'm not sure if ESA cares or what code is.
Plan B) Anyone have recommendations (and ideas of cost) for a good electrician to upgrade to a 200A panel? I've confirmed my meter is already 200A ready, but the wire in the pole to my panel is 2 gauge aluminum. I'd also like to shift the panel right about 6" if the wires have enough slack, and there's an alarm panel that needs to be moved. Not sure if electricians usually take care of all that stuff in a move. Finally in Oakville if that changes price (our hydro does free connect/disconnect)
Anyways hoping ESA guy just passes it as is. The reality is in real use I'd rarely get over using 60-70A anyhow, such a waste.
Apr 25th, 2018 10:01 am
I agree whole heartily. When the electrician came to quote, he called ESA to ask if it was possible to leave two outlets for two juiceboxes; answer was no and that it was against code. At the time the ESA person on the phone (he had it on speaker) mentioned that the service may need to be upgrade to 125A breaker and for him to do the calculations. I assumed this cost was put into the final quote, as it wasn't very detailed, and at the time I didn't know what to look for anyhow.
Apr 25th, 2018 10:09 am
The price sounds about right to be honest. I paid close to $800 for a JB install with a slightly longer runfromano wrote: ↑ I agree whole heartily. When the electrician came to quote, he called ESA to ask if it was possible to leave two outlets for two juiceboxes; answer was no and that it was against code. At the time the ESA person on the phone (he had it on speaker) mentioned that the service may need to be upgrade to 125A breaker and for him to do the calculations. I assumed this cost was put into the final quote, as it wasn't very detailed, and at the time I didn't know what to look for anyhow.
I asked when appeared to be packing up if he was going to upgrade the main breaker, and he said he didn't include that in the cost. I was pissed but didn't want to escalate the situation then and there. Luckily I told him beforehand that I would not pay in full until Permit was issued. I paid $ 600 of the quote, which from my perspective is a ripoff for a 10 meter armored 6/3 run, a NEMA 14/50 outlet and two replacement breakers in the panel.
Apr 25th, 2018 10:19 am
Apr 25th, 2018 10:44 am
Thanks. It seems like plug-in allows for more versatility.EvMart wrote: ↑ Plug if in the garage.
You can take it if you move.
Easy to upgrade.
If you have a warranty issue, you can just plug in the Nissan unit as a backup.
You will have a 240 VAC outlet in the garage, you can occasionally use for other things.
Hard wired if outside to reduce theft, and be more water tight.
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Apr 25th, 2018 3:24 pm
1200 is a great price for upgrading too 200amp service! I was quoted more than double that. I would've jumped on this price if it was me
Apr 26th, 2018 9:47 am
Going with it, I will send an update when i get the final bill......hoping no surprises, and hoping the inspector doesn't care that I wired my whole basement and current EV myself......
Apr 26th, 2018 12:08 pm
I wired part of my basement as well, thought I got an electrician to do the EV run, and handle the inspection, for that, so I could get the rebate. There were no issues, inspector barely looked in the garage, never mind the basement.
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