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I am about to get my 220v outlet installed in my garage and the electrician asked me to get a report from Burlington Hydro to show what my peak current draw was for every day last year. They want to make sure with a charger installed you don't exceed (I think it was 80%) of your panels capacity (in my case 100amps). Turns out I'm OK since I'm installing the Chargepoint charger which is a 32amp charger. I think this is a fairly new requirement in Halton region order to pass the inspection.
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seafish wrote:
Apr 6th, 2018 9:51 pm
Do you have anything other than regular AC/stove/dryer?
Nope.
seafish wrote:
Apr 6th, 2018 9:51 pm
I would recommend asking another electrician for a quote.
This was my 4th quote. He was the first to mention this "new building code requirement".
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Hobbesgsr wrote:
Apr 6th, 2018 10:18 pm
Nope.



This was my 4th quote. He was the first to mention this "new building code requirement".
Is your basement finish or you plan to finish it, it's not hard for a home over 2000 sq ft to use up 100 amp. Before adding extras like ev or hot tubs, etc.
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Just wondering why all you guys are buying American made charger?
There's plenty of canadian made charger out there.
They are all pretty much the same (warranty, cost, looks, etc...)
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typer100 wrote:
Apr 7th, 2018 9:31 am
Just wondering why all you guys are buying American made charger?
There's plenty of canadian made charger out there.
They are all pretty much the same (warranty, cost, looks, etc...)
I bought a CharePoint for home in mid 2016 over other EVSEs primarily for aesthetics and wifi connectivity. Nothing else at the time was on the rebate list that matched that. Later that year FLO was released which also had very nice aesthetics and wifi connectivity, but was also Canadian made. Only thing is it’s $1300 + tax vs $1000 + tax for the Chargepoint.

Just my opinion, and of course aesthetics shouldn’t be the only (or maybe even a reason at all) to choose an EVSE, but nothing looks quite as nice as the ChargePoint or FLO (except the Tesla HPWC, which somehow is just $633 CAD and can charge upwards of 80A).
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I am thinking about getting a second 240V EVSE for the following reasons:

- I want to be able to charge my FFE to a certain level only, say 75%, starting immediately that cheap rate electricity starts at 7pm. This is so that it is not sitting at 100% all night but has charge if needed later in the evening.

- I then want to charge up to say 95% in the morning before the car is used for commuting (say between 5am and 7am, or 5am and 6am if preconditioning by 7am). This is because I don't need to charge all the away to 100% full charge but want near maximum range each day for wife's range anxiety.

- I would like to be able to control the rate of charge so that the battery is kept warm longer overnight in winter and perhaps reaches a lower temperature weekend charging in the summer.

- I am eligible for 50% rebate

Any suggestions from EVSE owners for an EVSE that can reliably provide this control? Anything lower cost (and rebate eligible) other than Juicebox Pro and Chargepoint which seem like they would be capable reading specs?

I intend to keep the FFE in the family as long as possible and would like to do what I can to preserve battery life as long as possible.
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Riiiight, because Tesla reservation holders like me are in the market for a Chinese made EV, and not a Tesla, I see where you are going and I raise you a "not likely". To each their own. Driving a Tesla everyday, and having many test drives of my friends EV's including i3, Bolt, Leaf (old and new), it's not even a fair fight folks, Tesla wins hands down on awesome sauce. Sure, I'm a fanboy, but I didn't buy my Tesla till 2015 as I was skeptical in the 2012-2013 time frame like others, but no one else makes the kind of compelling EV's that Tesla does.
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SmartElectric wrote:
Apr 7th, 2018 11:47 am
Riiiight, because Tesla reservation holders like me are in the market for a Chinese made EV, and not a Tesla, I see where you are going and I raise you a "not likely". To each their own. Driving a Tesla everyday, and having many test drives of my friends EV's including i3, Bolt, Leaf (old and new), it's not even a fair fight folks, Tesla wins hands down on awesome sauce. Sure, I'm a fanboy, but I didn't buy my Tesla till 2015 as I was skeptical in the 2012-2013 time frame like others, but no one else makes the kind of compelling EV's that Tesla does.
The Tesla Model 3 is a great looking car imo and I think Tesla deserves support from consumers as they have pushed other manufacturers to wake up and develop EVs. However personally I don't want to be buying an EV just because its an EV, when I would not consider it as an ICE vehicle. I really am not in the market for a sedan with a modest trunk. It is a diminishing market segment for ICEs. I will look at a vehicle on its own merits in terms of functionality, value, looks, safety etc. Where it is made (assembled) is a consideration as ideally i would like to buy as local as possible but not one that would override the main decision factors. Chinese manufacture is not a big negative quality wise anymore. The huge investment in EVs in China will yield competitive design, quality, selection etc.
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Finally.
Seat, part of VW group, will introduce electric Leon in Europe in 2020, with a range of 500 km.
It will be based on VW Golf, Audi A3, and Skoda Octavia.

Electric S/W with big battery. If only it had RWD, it would be my dream car.
And here is the problem for big automakers, trying to compete with Tesla.
Instead of building purpose built EVs, they are still trying to adapt ICE'd cars to the new demands.

Electric SEAT

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xrvr wrote:
Apr 7th, 2018 1:56 pm
Finally.
Seat, part of VW group, will introduce electric Leon in Europe in 2020, with a range of 500 km.
It will be based on VW Golf, Audi A3, and Skoda Octavia.

Electric S/W with big battery. If only it had RWD, it would be my dream car.
And here is the problem for big automakers, trying to compete with Tesla.
Instead of building purpose built EVs, they are still trying to adapt ICE'd cars to the new demands.

Electric SEAT

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That Seat is based on VW's MEB platform. Not any ICE vehicle platform. It's a new platform designed for EV's only, this car seems to be on the same timeline as the other ID products VW announced as well.

https://insideevs.com/volkswagen-discus ... eap-build/
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xrvr wrote:
Apr 7th, 2018 1:56 pm
Finally.
Seat, part of VW group, will introduce electric Leon in Europe in 2020, with a range of 500 km.
It will be based on VW Golf, Audi A3, and Skoda Octavia.

Electric S/W with big battery. If only it had RWD, it would be my dream car.
And here is the problem for big automakers, trying to compete with Tesla.
Instead of building purpose built EVs, they are still trying to adapt ICE'd cars to the new demands.

Electric SEAT
My brother has the current version of that car in diesel - the Seat Leon Estate. It is essentially a Golf/Jetta Wagon sold under a cheaper brand name. VW are being forced into EV by dieselgate. It is the next iteration of the e-golf in wagon form. Current e-golf is already a multi fuel platform.
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Will you be able to star the ev car if you're not using it over an extended period of time? i.e. leave it at the airport parking lot over 2 weeks.

I didn't drive my civic for about 2 weeks. I drove around a few times but not long enough to fully charge the battery. When I was driving, I used the heated seat function. It wouldn't start and need a boost.
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dec12 wrote:
Apr 10th, 2018 10:54 am
Will you be able to star the ev car if you're not using it over an extended period of time? i.e. leave it at the airport parking lot over 2 weeks.
I think Tesla said the Model 3 will lose about 4% of range a month. So ~2% loss in two weeks, i suspect you won't have a problem. Now if you charged it at the airport somehow and left it unplugged for over 2 years your probably screwed.

Other models will YMMV
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