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michelb wrote:
Jan 11th, 2019 8:49 am
Metrolinx removes 12 EV charging stations at GO stations

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ ... -1.4972890

Doesn't affect me but I was pretty surprised to read this. Seems pretty short-sighted. They state very little usage since installation in 2017 but I'd be more interested in usage during the past year (according to this article https://www.building.ca/electric-car-sa ... t-in-2009/, more EV sales in 2018 than 3 previous years combined ...). They also state $2000 / year operation fee which seems really high; after the cost of the EVSE and the installation cost, I wouldn't expect it to cost very much to operate ...
Most if not all EVs charge at home. People charges elsewhere doesn't have time to wait much.

IMO, until we have a consensus on what a 150kw charger is like and all cars supports the same standard, it's stupid to invest in chargers. @ 150kw, you can get ~200km into battery in about the same time you spent at the gas pump.
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Xtrema wrote:
Jan 11th, 2019 6:27 pm
Most if not all EVs charge at home. People charges elsewhere doesn't have time to wait much.

IMO, until we have a consensus on what a 150kw charger is like and all cars supports the same standard, it's stupid to invest in chargers. @ 150kw, you can get ~200km into battery in about the same time you spent at the gas pump.
If the cars are parked at a Go station all day, they wouldn’t need rapid charging.

Your second paragraph doesn’t make much sense to me. 150kW chargers exist, even ones offering both CCS and ChaDeMo. The market’s skewing 80% CCS / 20% ChaDeMo at this point, so it’s on the cusp of full standardization, other than proprietary Tesla. But 150kW will not add 200km range quite as quickly as you think either. Even at a consistent 150 (usually it tapers off as charge rises) and 200Wh/km, 5 minutes would get you 62.5km. 200km would take more than 15 minutes in ideal conditions, realistically (and if other vehicles are charging) more like 30. Not that that’s bad, you can walk away, use the washroom, grab a coffee, shop, etc., but it’s a few multiples higher than the 5 minutes it takes at a gas pump.
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Good to know GM's Cadillac line will be introducing a few premium BEVs.

Really makes sense for luxury divisions to produce no compromise BEVs.
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alanbrenton wrote:
Jan 12th, 2019 8:45 am
Good to know GM's Cadillac line will be introducing a few premium BEVs.

Really makes sense for luxury divisions to produce no compromise BEVs.
Well that's a smart move on GM's part.

It is hard to convince consumers to shell out $50k on a Chevy, but much easier if it is a Cadillac.

Speaking of which, Model 3 is the #4 (or #3) best selling sedan in Canada, more than Camry & Accord combined.
http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2019/01/de ... ar-ranked/
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Jan 14th, 2019 11:51 am
Well that's a smart move on GM's part.

It is hard to convince consumers to shell out $50k on a Chevy, but much easier if it is a Cadillac.

Speaking of which, Model 3 is the #4 (or #3) best selling sedan in Canada, more than Camry & Accord combined.
http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2019/01/de ... ar-ranked/
Well, performance-wise the M3 is really the better car. Is it still selling briskly in Ontario without the EVIP? At least the dual motors is out.

I just don't want to spend so much after the ESA/warranty ends lol because although I enjoy driving, I have other things to do with my time and money.
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b166er1337 wrote:
Jan 14th, 2019 11:51 am
Well that's a smart move on GM's part.

It is hard to convince consumers to shell out $50k on a Chevy, but much easier if it is a Cadillac.

Speaking of which, Model 3 is the #4 (or #3) best selling sedan in Canada, more than Camry & Accord combined.
http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2019/01/de ... ar-ranked/
if they market it as competitor to M3, then they don't need to compete on price, tesla is never about compromise.
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From the Detroit Autoshow:

Ford CEO says a 'big surprise' coming next year with electric vehicles
"We have 16 models that are in design and development. We have a pretty big surprise coming next year," Ford CEO Jim Hackett says.
Ford has previously announced its plans to invest $11 billion in electric vehicles by 2022, and produce 40 hybrid and fully electric cars.
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EvMart wrote:
Jan 14th, 2019 4:22 pm
From the Detroit Autoshow:

Ford CEO says a 'big surprise' coming next year with electric vehicles
"We have 16 models that are in design and development. We have a pretty big surprise coming next year," Ford CEO Jim Hackett says.
Ford has previously announced its plans to invest $11 billion in electric vehicles by 2022, and produce 40 hybrid and fully electric cars.
Call me skeptical...
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EvMart wrote:
Jan 14th, 2019 4:22 pm
From the Detroit Autoshow:

Ford CEO says a 'big surprise' coming next year with electric vehicles
"We have 16 models that are in design and development. We have a pretty big surprise coming next year," Ford CEO Jim Hackett says.
Ford has previously announced its plans to invest $11 billion in electric vehicles by 2022, and produce 40 hybrid and fully electric cars.
Always 3 years away, 6 years maybe. Face With Tears Of Joy
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Yeah. Dropping the 75D X suggests Tesla will sell vehicles at higher price points even with upcoming competition that are $10k cheaper.

Is SCN charging even still free for new X and S owners?

The Y with two 15" screens is a contender in my books if it becomes a bit more reliable.
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My wife and I have an opportunity to buy a $33k OTR 2017 Bolt. 10k km.

Should I be excited or can someone here talk me out of this?
I commute about 35000km/year.
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7865875 wrote:
Jan 14th, 2019 8:15 pm
My wife and I have an opportunity to buy a $33k OTR 2017 Bolt. 10k km.

Should I be excited or can someone here talk me out of this?
I commute about 35000km/year.
that's a great price, wonder why such a huge hit on depreciation with only 10KM?
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guessguy wrote:
Jan 14th, 2019 9:00 pm
that's a great price, wonder why such a huge hit on depreciation with only 10KM?
I don't know. It's definitely legit through a dealer! I'm about ready to jump on it.

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