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FYI (and I mean it, this is top secret, nobody else knows it) wireless cameras run on 2.4GHz, which is the same spectrum as a microwave oven. “microwaves that turn into cameras” is technically correct
Hahahaha hahahaha. So top secret that you're the only person in the world to know it.

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t3359 wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 10:03 am
Someone anonymously released his 2005 taxes:

http://globalnews.ca/news/3310334/donal ... paign=2014
Haha, I saw that last night. So not only does everyone have egg on their face because Trump paid a higher tax % than Bernie (go socialism, except when I'm the rich guy so I don't want to pay...), Romney, Obama, but what they did was actually illegal so anyone that took part in getting/releasing his tax returns committed a felony.
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Mar 15th, 2017 11:02 am
Haha, I saw that last night. So not only does everyone have egg on their face because Trump paid a higher tax % than Bernie (go socialism, except when I'm the rich guy so I don't want to pay...), Romney, Obama, but what they did was actually illegal so anyone that took part in getting/releasing his tax returns committed a felony.
Every part of his tax returns suggest that he paid as much tax as required by law. Has anyone ever told their accountant or tax software not to take a deduction they were legally eligible to take.

As for him not releasung his tax returns, he is under no legal obligation at all to release them. Precedents can be made, and precedents can be broken.
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t3359 wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 10:03 am
Someone anonymously released his 2005 taxes:

http://globalnews.ca/news/3310334/donal ... paign=2014
...which doesnt prove a damn thing. A 3 page cut out of nothing. General summation sheets of federal tax. Doesnt show income or debts of foreign sources. In fact the other 500 pages of the return is missing. Still doesnt DISPROVE his ties with Russia or any other conflict of interest. David Cray Johnston is the pulitzer investigative reporter who said it was literally mailed to him. He's wrote a book critical of Trump's wealth, corruption, fraud, and shit. But he says Chump has a history of leaking information himself... if it favors his position in the public. Says Chump has cavorted with russian criminals for years... this is nothing new. Besides it's from 2005... where's the missing FULL 10 returns since?? Next.
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t3359 wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 10:03 am
Someone anonymously released his 2005 taxes:

http://globalnews.ca/news/3310334/donal ... paign=2014
Lol. This is the biggest leftist flop so far. All the media and public tuned it to hear what was supposed to be the Trump's downfall only to see a poorly made TV show that revealed that Trump actually not only paid taxes (and made money) but he paid more than Obama, Bernie Sanders, Comcast (MSNBC parent company) and others. Way to go.
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arm2000 wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 11:16 am
Lol. This is the biggest leftist flop so far. All the media and public tuned it to hear what was supposed to be the Trump's downfall only to see a poorly made TV show that revealed that Trump actually not only paid taxes (and made money) but he paid more than Obama, Bernie Sanders, Comcast (MSNBC parent company) and others. Way to go.
...sooo where is the missing 500 pages of that return indicating income and debts from foreign sources?? Doesnt prove a damn thing... key areas of interest are conflicts of interest. Besides it's 2005, where is the FULL disclosed 10 returns since his affair with Putin and other 3rd world countries?? Everyone knows Chump is known to leak shit that benefits himself. Point blank.
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Wonder who Trump has in his NCAA brackets.

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aznnorth wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 11:21 am
...sooo where is the missing 500 pages of that return indicating income and debts from foreign sources?? Doesnt prove a damn thing... key areas of interest are conflicts of interest. Besides it's 2005, where is the FULL disclosed 10 returns since his affair with Putin and other 3rd world countries?? Everyone knows Chump is known to leak shit that benefits himself. Point blank.
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aznnorth wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 11:15 am
Still doesn't DISPROVE his ties with Russia or any other conflict of interest. David Cray Johnston is the pulitzer investigative reporter who said it was literally mailed to him. He's wrote a book critical of Trump's wealth, corruption, fraud, and shit. But he says Chump has a history of leaking information himself... if it favors his position in the public. Says Chump has cavorted with russian criminals for years... this is nothing new. Besides it's from 2005... where's the missing FULL 10 returns since?? Next.
1. The US president is exempt from conflict of Interest rules. I don't agree with it but you can blame past governments for allowing that rule and not wanting to change it when they were in power.

2. What is the Russia concern?, no one has yet to bring forth any concrete claim or allegation that could in the slightest be considered to be a Russia concern. The Russia narrative started in one of the leaked DNC emails as a way to attempt to hurt Trump but nothing has come out of it. Even the alleged "Russia hacked the election" narrative because someone got into the DNC servers and leaked all the emails is bogus as even the DNC would not allow the FBI to physically inspect the server to confirm the allegations... Plus Wikileaks revealing that the CIA hacking tools can be imprinted with other foreign countries fingerprints to ensure nothing gets back to them, and those tools have been leaked outside the CIA and anyone could have used them for their own malicious intent.

3. 2005 tax return would be a more genuine way of looking at Trump's actual day to day operation as most candidates will take careful steps to ensure their taxes leading up to an election are squeaky clean so they appear good in the public's eye when released. Also past presidential candidates typically use their "Foundations" as a way to channel in and out their actual income and political favors so the released tax forms don't actually give you a genuine picture of the person. There is no requirement for anyone to release their tax info in the US presidential race.

The whole make a claim of something but not provide proof and then claim that the info is being covered up because it has not been revealed is a complete joke. Lack of evidence does not imply guilt. Just like the whole Iraq war justification when the US was 100% certain they had WMD and by Iraq not proving them or confirming the US's alleged evidence they are not cooperating and guilty of wrong doing.
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teamocil wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 12:54 pm
The whole make a claim of something but not provide proof and then claim that the info is being covered up because it has not been revealed is a complete joke. Lack of evidence does not imply guilt. Just like the whole Iraq war justification when the US was 100% certain they had WMD and by Iraq not proving them or confirming the US's alleged evidence they are not cooperating and guilty of wrong doing.
Sounds familiar.

Trump: "Obama wiretapped me".
Alt-Left: PROVE IT, NO HE DIDN'T, YOU'RE AN IDIOT, FAKE NEWS
Snowden: No need to wiretap, every call is already recorded anyways

Alt-Left: "Trump is in bed with Russia"
Trump: Am not, prove it
Alt-Left: "TRUMP IS IN BED WITH RUSSIA, NO PROOF NEEDED, BECAUSE I SAID SO"
FBI/CIA: No proof exists for Trump/Russia theory

The Russia rhetoric is still spinning, even though the accusers have had 6 months to dig up something, anything that even remotely backs up that claim...yet have turned up absolutely nothing.

The leftists have no shame. I'm going to end this cycle being a Trump supporter if the Leftists continue this nonsense, because I'd happily support Trump in order to be as far away from those raving maniacs.

As a side note: When I say "leftists", I am not painting the entire "left of centre" political supporters with this brush, only the radical, alt-left maniacs. I'm happy that we still have some level-headed Liberals in the world with which to have great debates with. Unfortunately, that number has been dropping over time as Liberals either move towards the centre/right (good), or more to the radical left (bad).
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Doesn't this tax info make Trump supporter's heads explode? They seem to be singing songs of triumph because "honest" Trump paid lots of taxes, so he must be "good." However, team Trump has often asserted that the news agency releasing this information is "fake news" meaning that in their minds this information is not real - right? Or does the fact that MSNBC releasing factual information corroborated by the White House mean that MSNBC is no longer "fake news." Also MSNBC can no longer to be said to have an anti Trump bias because they released information that Trump supporters say actually casts a positive light. If MSNBC was truly biased against Trump they could have just shredded this information and never ran a story on it.

This is a huge win for the former "fake news" because they are now legit for everyone.
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Hidden in the hyperbole, is the fact that he paid 4% in federal income tax, the remaining 21% is the alternative minimum tax. You know, that pesky little tax that trump wants to get rid of. And that total of 25% is the same tax "middle class" earners pay.

Well played strategy by trump/bannon to leak 12 year old tax information that is useless at best.
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About his taxes... Ladies and gentlemen... it is quite possible Trump "leaked" his own tax return for this particular year, because it is the only year when he paid taxes. Only year EVER.

From the beginning, people was skeptical about the truthfulness of this "leak". Just think about it.

"President Donald Trump may have leaked his own 2005 tax return, according to the Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative reporter David Cay Johnston." etc.
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motomondo wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 1:54 pm
About his taxes... Ladies and gentlemen... it is quite possible Trump "leaked" his own tax return for this particular year, because it is the only year when he paid taxes. Only year EVER.

From the beginning, people was skeptical about the truthfulness of this "leak". Just think about it.

"President Donald Trump may have leaked his own 2005 tax return, according to the Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative reporter David Cay Johnston." etc.
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