F me! CTS isn't reliable at all!

[weedb0y]

Some of you may know that I've been looking for a perfect upgrade to my Integra for quite a while now.

Have been researching for a while, from BMWs to TSX to G35 to CTS. I have almost signing the paperwork last week for a 05 CTS when I came across CadillacForums.com and found out folks having issues with shocks, head gaskets (and I thought GM fixed this dreaded problem of theirs) and unavailability of normal wear and tear parts in their dealer network.

I was at e46Toronto forums and those guys are crying over their 03-04s BMWs dying at 165-190,000KM mileage. Even my old sunfire was still smooth over 320K and my current integra is awesome at 170K.

What can one buy that handles like an Integra for around 12-15K?

[TenzoR]

Perhaps a late model IS300 or newer IS250/350?

[Debonair]

what did you find wrong with the TSX? I love mine so far

[thephenom]

I was at e46Toronto forums and those guys are crying over their 03-04s BMWs dying at 165-190,000KM mileage. Even my old sunfire was still smooth over 320K and my current integra is awesome at 170K.

What can one buy that handles like an Integra for around 12-15K?

Simple explanation. People don't make threads that says their e46 has over 200k. Forums are generally used for people to post about problems, not about people boasting how reliable their cars are. So unless you see an overwhelming amount of similar post, I'd just ignore. And IMO, any car that's been properly maintained shouldn't be dying so early.

[shinichi]

CTS???
check this place, even GM fans admit it, CTS is one of the worst car in term of reliability.
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...-better-76493/

[maniacshopper]

hey weedboy, is it just a regular CTS or CTS-V? just curious.
Caddy's don't have a reputation for reliability. That reputation for GM goes to Buick I'm afraid.

[ES_Revenge]

... I came across CadillacForums.com and found out folks having issues with shocks, head gaskets (and I thought GM fixed this dreaded problem of theirs) and unavailability of normal wear and tear parts in their dealer network.

I was at e46Toronto forums and those guys are crying over their 03-04s BMWs dying at 165-190,000KM mileage. Even my old sunfire was still smooth over 320K and my current integra is awesome at 170K.

Go on any car forum, and go in the troubleshooting/problems section. They are always full of problems. I don't care whether it's a Corolla forum or a Pinto forum, you're always going to read about problems in owner's forums for specific model cars. That's what those forums are there for afterall.

Car, all cars, have things go wrong with them. When you search out a place where those problems are listed and talked about, I'm not sure how it's surprising to find out about them

[bythehour]

+1. On-line forums tend to be disproportionately represented by complainers.

Most modern cars are reliable, unless there is an inherent design defect.

Even for cars/brands that are supposedly "bad", take a look at the stats. If you do the math, the defect rate for the most awful cars really aren't that bad. Twice as many defects as the most reliable cars usually means 3 defects vs. 1.5 defects per car...most of which are sorted out in the first dealership visit by the new owner.

[Kayne]

So you start a thread slamming a car and you dont even own one?

I hope that picture was not the car you had intended on buying as it needs a few gallons of De ricer ASAP!

The shock problem is most likely a wheel hop issues that some drag racers experience under full load.

[weedb0y]

So you start a thread slamming a car and you dont even own one?

I hope that picture was not the car you had intended on buying as it needs a few gallons of De ricer ASAP!

The shock problem is most likely a wheel hop issues that some drag racers experience under full load.

I backed out of my deal. Last thing I want is a lemon. Folks on the Caddilacforums are complaining about parts being out of stock due to recent GM fiasco.

Maybe TSX might be the deal.

[BMWWW]

An old civic hatchback?

Seriously, do you even think?-- You're asking for a car that will handle like your 2500- well under 3000lbs integra, and go looking at CTS's, TSX's, and e46's?



PRO-TIP: There is NO modern-day car that will have the light-handling of your 199x integra--not for 12-15 thousand dollars anyways.

[weedb0y]

An old civic hatchback?

Seriously, do you even think?-- You're asking for a car that will handle like your 2500- well under 3000lbs integra, and go looking at CTS's, TSX's, and e46's?



PRO-TIP: There is NO modern-day car that will have the light-handling of your 199x integra--not for 12-15 thousand dollars anyways.

When did I ask about a 'light handling' car? I just want something that isn't a boat.

I love how Audis handle but unfortunately, I am not renting aka leasing a car. I was going for the BMW but Maxbimmer and e46 both recommended against grabbing a used 04+ BMW 3 series. You seem knowledgeable in this? Mind telling me why?

http://www.tuningemotion.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=6042




Another one for the love!

[thephenom]

When did I ask about a 'light handling' car? I just want something that isn't a boat.

I love how Audis handle but unfortunately, I am not renting aka leasing a car. I was going for the BMW but Maxbimmer and e46 both recommended against grabbing a used 04+ BMW 3 series. You seem knowledgeable in this? Mind telling me why?

http://www.tuningemotion.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=6042

It's hard to get the best of both worlds IMO. You're going to have to sacrifice one thing for another, in your case, you're basically choose between performance/handling and reliability. CTS is nice, but how is that not a boat relative to your integra?

Now if you're talking about similar to your Integra, for 12-15k, you could look at another Honda, RSX? (Maybe Type-S) 06 Si? Early 2000 S2k? Miata? Yeah a bunch of ricer cars, a fairly big compromise on power, but you still get relatively light weight and reliable cars. (Although they'll each have their own problems)

Or better yet, save yourself $12-15k and keep driving the Integra.

[BMWWW]

When did I ask about a 'light handling' car? I just want something that isn't a boat.

I love how Audis handle but unfortunately, I am not renting aka leasing a car. I was going for the BMW but Maxbimmer and e46 both recommended against grabbing a used 04+ BMW 3 series. You seem knowledgeable in this? Mind telling me why?

http://www.tuningemotion.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=6042




Another one for the love!

I think that there is no better definition of a boat than a CTS. They handle quite well, but are a boat nonetheless, when compared to your integra.

German cars, in general, will all feel like a well made, well appointed, luxurious, boat in comparison to your lively integra. There's no way to sugar coat it.

I think you need to re-evaluate your criteria and requirements-- cause at this very moment, you seem to be way out of your element. (You're asking for something that doesn't feel like a boat, but then you say you like audi's.. From boat to less of a boat: Mercedes>Audi>BMW for the germans. The Caddy will probably fit between Audi and BMW, and your integra will be at the extreme end. All of these Germans and Caddy weight a LOT compared to your Integra, and that's because they offer a WHOLE lot more than just your run-of-the-mill, A-TO-B car.

Good luck.

[Quiggie]

What is wrong with the TSX? It sounds exactly like what you're looking for.