Thread: F1 versus dragster
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Dec 3rd, 2005 12:46 AM
#16

Originally Posted by
stevethewheel
Drag race? Will they let the pit crew come out and give it a push for the first 3 metres?
Ever notice how slow an F1 actually launches from a dead stop?
You're joking right? Slow? Do you know how much the average F1 car weighs and how much horsepower it has? They are pretty darn quick, far better acceleration than other open wheel cars like IRL or CART cars.
But compared to a dragster, obviously, as everyone indicated it's not even a contest. Dragster would be there and back, if only the dragster could go anywhere after those few seconds because the engine is blown and it couldn't turn around anyway. In fact it couldn't even turn at all really, lol.
Which brings me to a much better comparison--the F1 car and the dragster on any real racetrack. You know the kind where you have to pass the start/finish to complete a lap? And just ONE lap. The F1 car won before it started just like the dragster one the 1/4 mile before it started. It would be a joke again--the dragster pulls a DNF before the race even starts--even if it could turn it could do so nowhere near as well as well as your stock base model Kia, nevermind an F1 car. And even if it could turn the engine's done after less than 10 seconds, LOL. And how would it even brake for corners, if it could drive on them? Uh that parachute only works like once there guys, LMAO.
In other words you are comparing two things that shoudn't be compared. It's like asking what is better for drying your hair a hairdryer or a flamethrower? LOL.
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Dec 3rd, 2005 12:56 AM
#17

Originally Posted by
ES_Revenge
You're joking right? Slow? Do you know how much the average F1 car weighs and how much horsepower it has? They are pretty darn quick, far better acceleration than other open wheel cars like IRL or CART cars.
No I am not joking. I mean slow in the relative sense. All those cars you mentioned are not at their best 'off the line', and neither is F1. Why do you think they have a "rolling" start to the race? Maybe for the same reason there aren't any corners at the dragstrip.
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Dec 3rd, 2005 02:25 AM
#18

Originally Posted by
stevethewheel
No I am not joking. I mean slow in the relative sense. All those cars you mentioned are not at their best 'off the line', and neither is F1. Why do you think they have a "rolling" start to the race? Maybe for the same reason there aren't any corners at the dragstrip.
F1 cars don't start off races from a "roll"... they do it from a "standing start". 
F1 cars are incredibly fast off the line for a car that resembles a, well... car. 400M (roughly 1/4 mile) comes up in 9 or maybe 8 seconds. Fast enough to school Vince Diesel and Paul Walker LOL.
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Dec 3rd, 2005 09:19 AM
#19
oh my bad. Forgot entirely that they stop after the fromation lap.
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Dec 3rd, 2005 11:36 PM
#20

Originally Posted by
stevethewheel
Drag race? Will they let the pit crew come out and give it a push for the first 3 metres?
Ever notice how slow an F1 actually launches from a dead stop?
the "slow"ness is due to the perspective of the cameras
because the shots are always taken facing the F1s and opposite directions of the cars movements, u will think its a lot slower
if you are up front, ull see the accel is amazing
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Dec 5th, 2005 07:26 PM
#21
Newbie
On a drag race? the dragster. Why? Its like putting fish in the water. That's what dragster's do, go straight, not corner. If you put it in a circuit race the F1 car will lap it in 2-3 laps. Each car has its forte in purpose. To be fair, how will each do in a donut race as in NASCAR? Or INDY 500. Now that would be interesting.
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Dec 5th, 2005 07:34 PM
#22
You could probably gear an F1 to put up a fight. And who said slow start? These things rev to 12000 rpm. They may 'look' like they're starting slow, but they're very limited on the TCS [traction control system] abilities. If the drivers press any harder on the gas, the car will float.
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Dec 5th, 2005 11:12 PM
#23
Jr. Member


Originally Posted by
corrupt123
You could probably gear an F1 to put up a fight. And who said slow start? These things rev to 12000 rpm. They may 'look' like they're starting slow, but they're very limited on the TCS [traction control system] abilities. If the drivers press any harder on the gas, the car will float.
You could put 2 engines in the F1, and it still woudnt be close.
Your trying to compare a 1000hp car with a 5000+hp, purpose build car.
Btw, did you know that a top fuel dragster sucks in more air at full throttle than a 747 does at takeoff?
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Dec 5th, 2005 11:21 PM
#24

Originally Posted by
toolin4
You could put 2 engines in the F1, and it still woudnt be close.
Your trying to compare a 1000hp car with a 5000+hp, purpose build car.
Btw, did you know that a top fuel dragster sucks in more air at full throttle than a 747 does at takeoff?
bah.that's it
if they want to impress peple, have it burn more fuel than the spaceshuttle at liftoff
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Dec 6th, 2005 09:44 AM
#25
The average shift point in F1 is now in the ballpark of 17,000-19,000RPM... Man I love in race telemetry!
More air intake than a 747 at takeoff... yowzers... please step away from the engine.
Last year, BAR brought their F1 car to the speed tests at the Bonneville Salt Flats as a publicity stunt. They were going to strip it down aerodynamically and light 'er up "Let's see what this baby can do" so-to-speak. Mother Nature won -- high winds cancelled all runs when they were there.

Originally Posted by
corrupt123
You could probably gear an F1 to put up a fight. And who said slow start? These things rev to 12000 rpm. They may 'look' like they're starting slow, but they're very limited on the TCS [traction control system] abilities. If the drivers press any harder on the gas, the car will float.
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Dec 6th, 2005 10:35 AM
#26
Yeah it was cancelled but they reran it and the F1 Bar unofficially ran
413.205kph
http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/051108/23/etg4.html
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Dec 6th, 2005 10:59 AM
#27
Dragster by far.
This is akin to asking whether an F1 car can compete with a minivan in terms of cargo space.
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Dec 6th, 2005 04:41 PM
#28
Dragster No Question asked.
I seen a F1 car on dragstrip; I even had a video of it. (Can't find it )
Lou Gigliotti brought is C5 on drags stip; He had a majour issue with the traction. He did it for a fun; cause he knew its not a drag car.
He was able to 11s. Those engines are Bad Mofo; do you all know how they stop the engine after they run a 1/4 of a mile?
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