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Firefighters making 90k, DB pension, and 4 day weekends

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  • Feb 14th, 2018 12:59 am
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May 9, 2012
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SF Bay Area
Good for them. They also do long shifts and work in dangerous environment.
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Mar 18, 2005
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Niagara Falls
Wait till OP finds out some firefighters get 7 days off in a row.
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Jun 8, 2008
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Toronto
I bet they get to sleep on the job too. OH THE HUMANITY.

Good lord OP. Get your head out of your ass and realize how many sacrifices firefighters and their families make to ensure our safety.
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Jul 29, 2006
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wirebound wrote:
Feb 9th, 2018 12:56 pm
I bet they get to sleep on the job too. OH THE HUMANITY.

Good lord OP. Get your head out of your ass and realize how many sacrifices firefighters and their families make to ensure our safety.
+1 if OP thinks it's so great, he/she should become a firefighter then
Sr. Member
Dec 15, 2009
823 posts
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Ontario
Anglia15 wrote:
Feb 9th, 2018 12:21 pm
Is there any surprise why so many people in this country strive to work in public sector settings.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-i ... e37900341/
Did you read past the first 2 sentences?

John:
"who works four days on and four days off, for a total of 48 hours a week" ($90k @ 48hr/week is work a lot less than $90k @ 36 hrs per week)
Member
Dec 22, 2017
220 posts
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A senior firefighter with 7 years experience..seems fair
For seven years John worked full time in St. John in a junior firefighting role that came with considerably less pay than a senior one. Earning $55,000 a year
Deal Addict
Sep 22, 2013
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Good for him. He had to work for 7 years at a much lower salary.

Stupid thread by the OP/low content.

IBTL.
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Oct 6, 2015
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If that's a true market rate, fine. But I suspect its very hard to get into those sorts of jobs due to the sheer number of applicants. Meaning that the compensation is way too high and the public may not getting good value for money.

Long shifts are a convenience to the firefighters themselves, and shouldn't be held out as a downside of the job. Shorter shifts could be arranged if desired. Many of them, in my experience, work second jobs or even run businesses, so the long shifts merely give them more days off.
Deal Fanatic
Nov 2, 2013
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Edmonton, AB
Why don't you be a firefighter then?

Oh wait this is RFD where the only jobs that exist are in accounting or finance. And if your family is from a certain part of the world then the only jobs that exist are in the office.
Newbie
Jul 28, 2017
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Yeah, it's not like those firefighters are going off into places that are literally burning trying to stop a house fire from enveloping an entire street. It's not like those firefighters are putting their own lives on the line. It's not like those firefighters are helping to save other people's (and animals) lives too.

Should I keep going?
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Nov 15, 2004
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Toronto
I'm going to jump in against the circle jerk going on here, but firefighters are becoming less and less necessary in the numbers they're being hired. Construction techniques have improved, materials these days are less prone to fire, and firefighters are underworked and overpaid all over North America.

https://globalnews.ca/news/1985217/numb ... rop-study/
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-d ... e24459593/
https://tvo.org/article/current-affairs ... gency-care
https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2013/ ... story.html

They fulfill an important role, but in recent decades there has been a greatly reduced need for them. A huge part of what they are nowadays is just a make-work program for white guys (and they're nearly all white guys, despite the classes being filled in proportion to local demographics). Their hiring follows the same trends as construction workers, where all sorts of people want to do it, apply to do it, and pay to learn to do it, but only one subset really gets hired. Paying that much for someone to sit around one particular area in the hopes something will happen is pure union pork.
Could HAVE, not could OF. What does 'could of' even mean?
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Sep 4, 2007
1080 posts
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Edmonton
Pros: Get paid very to work out and sleep on the job, amazing pension, and high prestige.

Cons: Potentially put yourself in mortal danger. Also, harder to do as you get older.

To use the RFD vocabulary is a pretty hot deal... as long as you don't die.

I'm not sure what to say about the fires vs firefighters except that I immediately distrust anything from the Fraser Institute. They are a right-wing mouthpiece that is paid to actively mislead the public.

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