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Forced Gratuity (Toronto/Ontario)

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mrweather wrote:
Jan 10th, 2018 10:02 am
Kind of off-topic but how does one handle tipping at buffet places? I mean, the customer is the one going up and getting food. Maybe the server brings drinks and busses the tables, but does that justify 15%+?
The servers typically have to clear the plates 3-4 times per table at a buffet, and have to regularly replenish your water as well.
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Chickinvic wrote:
Jan 9th, 2018 5:04 pm
I won't do business with any establishment that adds tip on the bill (unless for large groups).
I agree with this, get me once and that’s it.
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CBC Marketplace should do a episode on forced tips.

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Thanks! They've reached out to me.

Ya'll watch out for an episode soon on Forced Gratuity. If you experienced any forced gratuity for small groups of people, make your voice count here.
tk1000 wrote:
Jan 11th, 2018 10:42 pm
You can contact them about this...

Got a gripe? Getting the run-around? Fighting the good fight? Tell us about it!
http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/contactus/

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Smash Kitchen, one of my favourite spots has a 18% gratuity charger but I'm okay with it, the foods and service is awesome.
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18% for 1 person?
coriolis wrote:
Jan 12th, 2018 1:42 pm
Smash Kitchen, one of my favourite spots has a 18% gratuity charger but I'm okay with it, the foods and service is awesome.

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Cheapo-Findo wrote:
Jan 12th, 2018 1:43 pm
18% for 1 person?
As per his link it says for 8 people or more.
:D
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If they raise menu prices by 13 percent instead of having a service charge, would you still eat there?

If a restaurant that doesn't have a service charge but has tipping raises it's menu prices 15-20 percent in order to pay the servers more, will you still eat there? What if all restaurants do it?

I figure most of the people that refuse to tip will not be happy when prices have to be raised to still be able to pay servers what they expect to get paid. Either way you should be paying around the same amount, it's the cost of eating at a restaurant in North America.
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BigJonsson wrote:
Jan 13th, 2018 2:20 am
I figure most of the people that refuse to tip will not be happy when prices have to be raised to still be able to pay servers what they expect to get paid. Either way you should be paying around the same amount, it's the cost of eating at a restaurant in North America.
I don't think people are refusing to tip (unless service is really bad) but the question is how much they actually tip normally.
I tend to tip 10% of the after tax total unless I am in an upscale restaurant or the waiter or waitress does things that really impress me.

A forced 13% is too high, (when eating alone or with less than 6 people) especially when it's being taxed by the government on top of being a forced tip.
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playnicee1 wrote:
Jan 13th, 2018 2:51 am
I don't think people are refusing to tip (unless service is really bad) but the question is how much they actually tip normally.
I tend to tip 10% of the after tax total unless I am in an upscale restaurant or the waiter or waitress does things that really impress me.

A forced 13% is too high, (when eating alone or with less than 6 people) especially when it's being taxed by the government on top of being a forced tip.
Plenty of people on RFD like to boast about not tipping =/
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Cheapo-Findo wrote:
Jan 11th, 2018 10:38 pm
CBC Marketplace should do a episode on forced tips.
Do you know of any instances where rules are not followed?
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Here's one.
playnicee1 wrote:
Jan 6th, 2018 5:54 am
So, the $11.60 minimum wage in Ontario became $14/hr. officially on January first 2018.
Instead of raised menu prices, it would seem the latest solution is forced Gratuity at some (more) restaurants.
While some of the Hot pot restaurants and Japanese restaurants were already doing this, it seems the list is growing.

The newest example of forced gratuity is Korean Grill House @ Yonge & Bloor. (as of Jan. 2018)
13% is added to the bill on top of the 13% HST.
(even if you are just one person or two people)

Any other recent places to add to the forced gratuity list?
peli33 wrote:
Jan 14th, 2018 4:13 pm
Do you know of any instances where rules are not followed?

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Cheapo-Findo wrote:
Jan 14th, 2018 4:42 pm
Here's one.
There is nothing wrong with mandatory gratuity as long as customers are warned in advance. You always have the choice to avoid those places.
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BigJonsson wrote:
Jan 13th, 2018 3:00 am
Plenty of people on RFD like to boast about not tipping =/
The vast majority of RFD posters on all the tipping related threads I have read all tip.

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