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Former Ontario PC leader Patrick Brown Megathread - sexual misconduct allegations, CTV lawsuit, not running in election

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Mike15 wrote:
Feb 14th, 2018 3:40 pm
CTV is a division of BellMedia and was for a time in the same ownership group as the Globe and Mail, which endorsed the Conservatives in '06, '08, and '11 during that period. Stephen Harper appointed CTV broadcaster Mike Duffy to the Senate shortly after the 2008 election, along with Pamela Wallin, who was on the board of Bell GlobeMedia at the time. They have a similar track record with provincial politics.

I'm not going to call them Fox News North or anything, but if anything, CTV is and has been centrist or centre-right, corporatist media.


I still don't know whether the timing of this blowing up against Brown was Wynne's team or an 'inside job,' but given the concerns Lisa MacLeod mentioned were brought to party leadership before, and the quickness at which Brown's campaign team abandoned him, the party positioned itself to remove him and call a leadership campaign extremely quickly.
Can you source this claim?
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radeonboy wrote:
Feb 14th, 2018 12:57 pm
CTV on Twitter is on blast with fake news comments everywhere Face With Tears Of Joy He should sue the pants out of everyone including CTV
With all the tin-foiling going on in this thread, no one seems to be asking the most important question:

If Brown is as innocent as you all seem to think he is, why is he threatening to sue instead of actually filing a lawsuit?

Mark my words - Brown will never sue. He'll threaten and posture, but he will never do it.
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Mike15 wrote:
Feb 14th, 2018 3:40 pm
CTV is a division of BellMedia and was for a time in the same ownership group as the Globe and Mail, which endorsed the Conservatives in '06, '08, and '11 during that period. Stephen Harper appointed CTV broadcaster Mike Duffy to the Senate shortly after the 2008 election, along with Pamela Wallin, who was on the board of Bell GlobeMedia at the time. They have a similar track record with provincial politics.

I'm not going to call them Fox News North or anything, but if anything, CTV is and has been centrist or centre-right, corporatist media.

I still don't know whether the timing of this blowing up against Brown was Wynne's team or an 'inside job,' but given the concerns Lisa MacLeod mentioned were brought to party leadership before, and the quickness at which Brown's campaign team abandoned him, the party positioned itself to remove him and call a leadership campaign extremely quickly.
That the allegations were made shortly before the election suggests that there was some political motivation to it and also explains why the Cons were in a rush to replace him. They don't want to go into the election with this hanging over them!
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If he does sue, will this mean he and CTV cant talk about this in the media? CTV at least i think would be able to use the excusethat they cant comment on anything because of legal proceedings.
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koffey wrote:
Feb 14th, 2018 1:12 pm
CTV is a liberal run corp, of course they would point fingers and blame before fact checking. This me too movement is gone way to far and the people that just blindly follow are just as bad. Humanity is gone to the shits.

EDIT; instead of humanity should we use something a little less 'man'ly?
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Redsanta wrote:
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Folks. You know someone has had their sensitivity training when they use "folks" a lot.
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This is sickening...use to watch and respect CTV News. Can't watch it anymore...
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koffey wrote:
Feb 14th, 2018 3:43 pm
Can you source this claim?
BellMedia/GlobeMedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Media

Globe's endorsement of Conservatives: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper ... tion,_2011
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper ... tion,_2008
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper ... tion,_2006

Timing of Mike Duffy's appointment was during prorogation, shortly after the '08 election:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Duffy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prorogation_in_Canada

Pamela Wallin, being a former CTV newscaster but more importantly on the CTV GlobeMedia board at time of her appointment and continued to serve on it while Senator until the 2011 deal that saw CTV go to Bell wholly:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamela_Wa ... ate_boards
http://www.friends.ca/news-item/5016
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/201 ... tment.html

It's a parroting of American talking points to talk about "liberal media" in Canada. CBC and TorStar, sure... but not really for the for-profit, corporate owned media like CTV/Globe, City, Global, and of course PostMedia.
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shikotee wrote:
Feb 14th, 2018 3:58 pm
With all the tin-foiling going on in this thread, no one seems to be asking the most important question:

If Brown is as innocent as you all seem to think he is, why is he threatening to sue instead of actually filing a lawsuit?

Mark my words - Brown will never sue. He'll threaten and posture, but he will never do it.
If Brown is guilty why aren't the accusers calling the police?
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hugh_da_man wrote:
Feb 14th, 2018 5:00 pm
If Brown is guilty why aren't the accusers calling the police?
They don't like the smell of bacon?
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hugh_da_man wrote:
Feb 14th, 2018 5:00 pm
If Brown is guilty why aren't the accusers calling the police?
I don't think they could even if they could prove whatbthey are claiming, as far as I can tell, he isn't being accused of anything illegal, but is being accused of questionable behaviour.
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hugh_da_man wrote:
Feb 14th, 2018 5:09 pm
Exactly.
I will hand it to the PR firm Brown hired.
The strategy of calling the girls to go to the police is a great deflection strategy.
As seen by your question, it will appeal to many.

My suggestion is that you stick to your ideological guns. Many of you have clammered that you loathe #metoo because it subverts the legal process. As such, you should insist that Brown take these "liars" to court and clear his name.

Spoiler - he never will.
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Another thing not being mentioned is that he had an open concept condo. No bedroom doors. The whole issue is that he was not conservative enough for the hard cores. The fact they all resigned within hours of the news breaking stinks. The Star was endorsing him which is a hardcore Liberal machine.

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