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Framing - Poor Workmanship or Industry Standard?

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Sr. Member
Aug 18, 2014
602 posts
385 upvotes
Markham, ON
is funny to read all these comments bashing the work.

They aren't prefect, but they are normal.
Framing is about being practical and getting the job done.
None of these things are meant to be visible in a finished house..

As long as they are sturdy, square, level and straight...they can be however ugly with misaligned stud, short piece, patch work, etc.

99% of our house will have these same issues.
Deal Fanatic
Aug 29, 2011
9925 posts
7089 upvotes
Mississauga
The point is, if the framers are doing that sloppy of a job that will also translate into how wavy and out-of-square the walls will be.
Deal Addict
Feb 18, 2016
1808 posts
530 upvotes
What about the plastic cover still on the smoke detector?
Banned
May 12, 2004
9756 posts
4136 upvotes
Ottawa
notfromqc wrote: What about the plastic cover still on the smoke detector?
Showhome or not, the first homeowner should remove those covers as proof they were never exposed to drywall dust for liability reasons.
Member
Jul 8, 2014
389 posts
265 upvotes
AB
So i contacted my builder regarding these pictures and this is what they responded with:

"Thanks for reaching out with your concerns. We are still very confident that we can deliver you a home to your standards. Our homes are handmade, things can and do happen, but luckily, everything in a home can be fixed, as we strive to meet your standard.

The walls are not load bearing and are in place to provide a curtain and support the finish applied to them, they are solid. The extra electrical holes are not a defect, holes are allowed and it's easier to drill in the top of the walls rather than through the studs. Lastly, the telepost is supporting the landing properly as expected.

Your sales team will be able to take you through your home at the rough in stage. The electrical, plumbing and heating rough ins will be completed at this time. We also perform a cabinet walk-through once the cabinets have been installed as well. We will also be dedicated to giving you the best home inspection – to examine any imperfections or defects that can happen during a new home construction.

Buying a home can be stressful, but we would like to provide as much reassurance as possible. Would it help to refer you to the ANHW and legislation on quality of materials? We continually strive to be well above these standards.

I hope this helps, but please respond with any further concerns you may have.
Many thanks!"
Deal Fanatic
Jul 4, 2004
7534 posts
792 upvotes
Toronto
This is typical of rough carpentry, especially interior partition walls. Production trades like electricians and HVAC and whatnot are also not going to give you a Picasso behind the walls. Speed is the name of the game.
Even in many of the custom homes we work on the rough in work is a bit sloppy....to code, but sloppy, but that sloppiness matters to noone once the walls are closed up. Pay close attention to how the FINISH carpentry, drywall, and other finishing is done. Those are the key items.

Oh but for rough ins there is one critical aspect and that is to make sure all your duct work is sealed. That means tape (3" is best) on all the joints and seams, INCLUDING the ones on top of supplies and returns (i.e. basement) that you have to reach on top of a ladder to feel and do - they often skip these because it's (a) hard and (b) not visible from standing on the floor. Production won't see the use of a mastic product to seal the joints, but this is by far the better approach.

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