Frauded by CheapOTC.com

[GangStarr]

BBB has little or to no power in Canada, they wont help you

[Fllay]

Gangstar,

Guess who help me get the game BestBuy refused to ship me? Plus a free copy of Final Fantasy Dawn of Souls and a one time 10% off anything coupon for in store or online.

(Please refer to one of my last year thread. BTW, I think back then I didn't list the free FFDOS and 10% off coupon as part of the settle, cos I didn't want to encourage other people to purchase from problematic reseller, expecting to get more than what they paid. It's totally not worth the time.)

[dani_toronto]

Also, when you order products, make sure that the website is legit.
1. Try to avoid sellers with no 1-800/888 #s.

Hello
sorry about your bad experience, but I'd like to comment on your tip quoted above.
I do have an online business, and don't have a toll free number for one simple reason: i STRONGLY prefer people to contact me by email.
Since it's a one-person operation, every time someone calls I'm either driving to pick up or deliver items, at the post office, or figthing with UPS on the other line. So I'm usually unable to provide information to the caller on the spot.
An email gives me the chance to read, check catalogs, make calculations, call suppliers, and craft a complete, meaningful and polite response.
My local phone number is listed in my site, but I don't want to encourage callers by offering a toll free line.
Besides, Bell canada quoted me WAY too much, when I enquired about it.
Cheers
Dani

[Fllay]

dani_Toronto,

At least you do offer a local # and probably an actual business address too right? The reason I suggest people that cos to me, I think if the business is large enough to offer 1-800 #, at least there are greater chances for them to still be there when you need help. W/ pre-paid phones, it's like people can open/close a new phone account instantly, so how reliable is that? The same goes for e-mail, esp the free e-mail accounts like hotmail, yahoo, et cetera; people can just obtain a new email address like whenever they want.

BTW, dani, I do understand your situation. However, as a student on a tight budget, I think it's better to be safe than sorry (and maybe this doesn't apply to just students on tight budget). After the incident, I don't feel like taken chances on...

Thanks everyone for the replys.

I've done my part, filing 2 complaints to BBB (one against cheapotc.com, another against PayPal). It's time for me to move on and focus on my study.

[borab]

Guys , as seen below, i bought some minoxidil from this son of a ..... . and of course the package was never delivered to me.

then i reported him to BBB and mailed all those stuff to cheapOTC and this Yoseph s hotmail adress. at the end of an annoying experience, i got all my money back.

Dont hesitate to report him to all possible authorities.

Hello ------,

CheapOTC.com has cancelled your order. Your credit card will be refunded in full.

Reason: Customer request to cancel
Comments from CheapOTC.com: "Please don't place any more order with us."

Order Details - Sep 3, 2007 20:23 GMT+04:00
Google Order #141115870106---

Shipping Status Qty Item Price
Canceled Items 1 Men's Rogaine Extra Strength FOAM 3-Month Supply $41 + $16 Shipping $57.00
Tax : $0.00
Total : $57.00
Oct 16 Refund : -$57.00
Total charged: $0.00

[ali123]

do they got an email, so I can spam at em?

[nsr250]

do they got an email, so I can spam at em?

Post #11 has his email.

[felix]

Just curious, didn't you guys pay by credit card? If so, just file a dispute for this transaction with the credit card company. Your credit card company will always decide in your favour unless the other party can prove otherwise. (No idea why I didn't suggest this before when this thread was created 2 years ago!!)

[condor11]

Just curious, didn't you guys pay by credit card? If so, just file a dispute for this transaction with the credit card company. Your credit card company will always decide in your favour unless the other party can prove otherwise. (No idea why I didn't suggest this before when this thread was created 2 years ago!!)

I was going to post the same thing LOL!

Why do you guys go to all the trouble like BBB, complain, "ah, its only $15"???
If you payed by PayPal and PayPal is only linked to your CC just file chargeback with CC. Then CC takes money from PayPal and PayPal immediately takes money from this scammer's account. THEN PayPal starts investigating.

So I really don't understand what all the fuss is about.

Same with scammers on Ebay. If you didn't get it - file with PayPal and if PayPal didn't respond or resolve - then chargeback with CC.

[wilscoop]

I ordered 64 razor blade cartridges from the same vendor in a different guise -- Onlygillette -- via Google Checkout. Received two out of 64. Charged 150 USD.

[wilscoop]

yes. it's definitely the same guy. only operating through Google Checkout.


Registrant:
Yousef Kashani
366 E. Walnut St.
Long Beach, New York 11561
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: ONLYGILLETTE.COM
Created on: 17-Jun-07
Expires on: 17-Jun-08
Last Updated on: 17-Jun-07

Administrative Contact:
Kashani, Yousef yosefkashani@hotmail.com
366 E. Walnut St.
Long Beach, New York 11561
United States
(516) 897-8215 Fax --

Technical Contact:
Kashani, Yousef yosefkashani@hotmail.com
366 E. Walnut St.
Long Beach, New York 11561
United States
(516) 897-8215 Fax --

Domain servers in listed order:
NS55.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS56.DOMAINCONTROL.COM

[dairymandip]

contact the attorney general of the state he's in

when paypal was holding my money for like 3 months even though the seller called and verified he received the item (a ps3) once i contacted the attorney general of california and a letter was sent the next day

[selpats]

First, the web site looks cheap and unprofessional.
Second, they only accept PayPal as the method of payment, instead of accepting credit cards.
Third, they have neither actual contact address, nor phone number.

I realize that we all learn from our mistakes but wouldn't these three things have caused some 'red flags' to go up when you were shopping there in the first place?

[wilscoop]

onlygillette looks slick, offers seven different payment methods and a phone number although no address. because of the domain name I inferred it has some kind of direct affiliation with Gillette.

thank you, dairymandip. I will contact the attorney general.

[wilscoop]

Google is refunding the money. I'm grateful to them but also much more wary about Internet shopping.