Fs Benq 200 Dvd+r $59 Restocked!

[madman604]

conventional cdroms use red lasers, blu-ray is a blue laser which is more focused and narrower giving the ability to write HUGE amounts of DAT onto standard sized DVD-Rs. like 25 GB or more VS 4.7 GB now.

[dmdsoftware2]

Hey, I got an email about DVD info: (Sorry, I don't have any link for this, it's just copy/paste from my email......)

Anyone know what is Blu-Ray ?
Is this info that I got true? (I didn't check google yet...)

HamsterGirl35

================================================== ===========
What's Blu-ray, and why is Ray so sad?
While Sony came up short with Beta, it's got the best chance to come out on top in the new disc war. Blu-ray discs hold 50 gigabytes of storage -- more than 10 times the storage of today's popular DVD disc -- and nearly twice as much as the 30-gig capacity of HD-DVD.

The Battle
Format Storage
DVD 4.7 gigs
HD-DVD 30 gigs
Blu-ray 50 gigs

================================================== ===========

Everything you wanted to know, and more.... www.blu-ray.com

[dmdsoftware2]

I think they may just be out of 8x DVD-Rs at the moment. The FujiFilm03 media was probably brought in to fullfill a prior commitment, and now they are possibly waiting for finish production of their next batch of media.

Think again, I just got my DVD-R order today and it was 8X - so your theory doesn't hold.

Looks like the type of DVD-R you will receive is purely random.

[Madcatmk2]

The new firmware is newer and according to its notes (http://herrie.rpc1.org/downloads/2x00/v3-2rel.txt) it "Used MCC 003 @ 8x as default strategy for 'unsupported' media". I don't see DAXON in the 'supported' list so it should be doing 8x. (shouldn't it?) Perhaps herrie can/will release another?

nec 25x0a.
This list are only for changes and added media by Herrie. The supported list is
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...8&postcount=34
search for daxon az2 (benq +R 8x):
44 41 58 4f 4e 00 00 00 41 5a 32 00 01 -> [DAXON AZ2 ] 2.4 4.0

It still nec fault for not updating their 25x0 firmwares.

You could ask Herrie to add 8x cav strategy to it. mailto:herrie@rpc1.org

Good luck

[Madcatmk2]

Think again, I just got my DVD-R order today and it was 8X - so your theory doesn't hold.

Looks like the type of DVD-R you will receive is purely random.

Dolphin was talking to me. Sorry, i should had send an PM to him instead of posting my question here. Not everyone knows what we are talking about.


Translation:
One thing I *have* heard (not from Daxon) is that in early January they only had 2 million discs left... Daxon(Benq) may be out of stock of their own 8x DVD-R (media code Sony D08) for the moment. The Benq 8x DVD-R (media code FujiFilm03) was probably brought in to fullfill a prior commitment, and now they are possibly waiting for finish production of their next batch of media. Still, this is only speculation based on some information I have received from a few different non-official sources.
Hopefully I'll know the official reasons soon! ;-)


OK?

[dmdsoftware2]

Dolphin was talking to me. Sorry, i should had send an PM to him instead of posting my question here. Not everyone knows what we are talking about.


Translation:
One thing I *have* heard (not from Daxon) is that in early January they only had 2 million discs left... Daxon(Benq) may be out of stock of their own 8x DVD-R (media code Sony D08) for the moment. The Benq 8x DVD-R (media code FujiFilm03) was probably brought in to fullfill a prior commitment, and now they are possibly waiting for finish production of their next batch of media. Still, this is only speculation based on some information I have received from a few different non-official sources.
Hopefully I'll know the official reasons soon! ;-)


OK?

Ah, okay... it sounded like he was saying that they were shipping out the crappy 4x fujifilm media discs instead of the 8x to the latest DVD-R orders.

[Philip_69]

Philip, I'm running the same burner and I have flashed to the latest BIOS posted above. I am still waiting for my pack to arrive... I ordered, then cancelled, and ordered again (200 seems like too much)... anyway, I can report my results to see if we can find a resolution.

Thanks you and Madcatmk2 for the input, I decide to keep the discs anyway, price is too good to pass . An extra 8 min. of burning wont kill me, plus I guess burnign at 4X would yield a better quanlity, wouldnt it? I dont donate to Herrie, so emailing him asking for a specific problem is kinda rude. Hopefully NEC will release a updated firmware for the 2500A in the near future.

Cheers.

[madman604]

the 4 X media i recieved today

Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID SONY04D1
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 411107328
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Manufacturer Rated Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 1.0x 1385KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 09
2x Speed OPC power 11
2x Write Strategy field 1 11 87 78 90
2x Write Strategy field 2 A8 82 00 20 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 06
4x Speed OPC power 17
4x Write Strategy field 1 0D 0F 0B 0B
4x Write Strategy field 2 98 08 0F 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 06
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 1C
4x Write Strategy field 4 15 97 77 75
4x Write Strategy field 5 98 AB 88 80 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

Complete Media Code
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 86 0E 11 .l...@....R.....
00000010 66 78 80 00 03 53 4F 4E 59 30 34 00 04 44 31 00 fx...SONY04..D1.
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 A8 82 00 20 00 02 00 06 09 11 11 ........ .......

[HamsterGirl35]

Yeah!!! rec'd my order today ^_^
Ordered Date: 01/20/05
Rec'd Date: 01/27/05

I got 8X...^_^

it's interesting how they wrote in the packing slip:
BENQ 200 PCS DVD+R(4X OR 8X )

Ha....still quite happy that my spindles weren't cracked at all....^_^
*** happy happy ***

I don't have any burner yet....so, I dont' know what type of dvd media would it show.....
I'll have to bring it to friend's place to backup my dvd movies and maybe will find out what type that is.....(there's no way to find out without putting into burner, right?)

Thanks again for the deal....quite happy ^_^

[mprielozny]

I received my order today.

Got 400 of these 8x DvD+R AZ02. Should last me at least 3-4 months.

there were minor nick on the bottom of the case but I dont give a damn.

what I was wondering.

1620 can burn this at 16x no problem. how do I check the Q of the burn.

I was even thinking that screw it will burn only at 8x it saves only 2mins anywyas.

16x burn took 6:07
8x burn took 8:27

my 107D usually burned 4x media in 15:42
so nice upgrade.

[g_goo_goo]

Got the 200 pack today too! I don't see any damage on the box, or the spindles.

What a deal for $59.99, they are indeed DVD+R 8X... I guess futureshop has run out of 4X...

DAXON DVD+R AZ2

BENQ DW-1620 will burn at 16X, QScan reports that it recommends only burning at 8X (let me know if you've had good burns at 16X)
NEC 3500A will burn at 12X
PIONEER DVR-108 will burn at 8X

[The Digital Dolphin]

I highly recommend NOT burning these faster then 12x max (and generally I don't recommend overclocking media anyways!).

I've had issues with this media burned at 16x on my BenQ DW1620... just fyi.

[Madcatmk2]

Its for those who received Fujifilm03 for their Benqs DVD-R 8x.

The Digital Dolphin
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/showp...postcount=1183

Ok... I've received word from Daxon Taiwan now.

It was pretty limited, but they were able to confirm a couple things for me:

#1: Daxon does NOT make FUJIFILM03 media
#2: Daxon has purchased FUJIFILM03 media in the past
#3: Daxon ONLY purchased FUJIFILM03 media because they didn't have enough of their own media to fill an order
#4: Daxon is confident that the media is of equivilant quality to their own

They did not confirm that it was purchased from Prodisc... it may have been purchased through Fuji actually (although, it might still be Prodisc media then).

Personally, if the media WAS made by Prodisc (still not 100% sure) I do not believe it is of equivilant quality, but that was a marketing statement on their part I think anyways. Prodisc is becoming quite well known for their 8x DVD-R screwups, and I would rather use Acro Circle (Optodisc) media then Prodisc for 8x DVD-Rs any day!!

Madcatmk2:
I consider [for now] Daxon(Benq) -8x(SonyD08 media code) higher quality than fujifilm03. This is what i found with videohelp.com . This could change with time though.

Fujifilm -R 8x bad results with many burners
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.ph...=2072#comments
Same thing
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.ph...=2626#comments
I searched for prodiscs too and the results looks much like the fuji one,
(sometimes its good, sometimes its bad).


Benq -R 8x Sony
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.ph...=2268#comments
Some LG's have probems with this benq with exception of 4163B:
http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/172/6


Madcat

[aphextwin2050]

Its for those who received Fujifilm03 for their Benqs DVD-R 8x.

The Digital Dolphin
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/showp...postcount=1183




Madcatmk2:
I consider [for now] Daxon(Benq) -8x(SonyD08 media code) higher quality than fujifilm03. This is what i found with videohelp.com . This could change with time though.

Fujifilm -R 8x bad results with many burners
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.ph...=2072#comments
Same thing
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.ph...=2626#comments
I searched for prodiscs too and the results looks much like the fuji one,
(sometimes its good, sometimes its bad).


Benq -R 8x Sony
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.ph...=2268#comments
Some LG's have probems with this benq with exception of 4163B:
http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/172/6


Madcat

And to add to this, not to try to confuse people even more, but I've also found some sites saying that the FUJIFILM03s are nothing but great disks and comparably rank up there with the grade A media.

FUJIFILM03 8x - PIONEER 108 VS NEC-3500 (apparently NEC's do not like FUJI's)

GOOD REVIEWS

Another one with good results on the FUJIFILM03

Another set of nice results from about 15 people all saying the media is good with good readability/quality all around

eg.
Manufacturer : FUJIFILM03
Disc Type : DVD-R
Usage : General
Recording Speed : 1 X - 8 X

1st disc was a PS2 backup 2.4Gb which took 5mins 54secs to burn - tried disc on 2 modded PS2's with no problems whatsoever and 1 of the PS2's is especially picky and only likes Riteks so a + there! Disc was very quick to load and very quiet unlike some other discs that spin forever and the noise is terrible!

2nd disc was a movie backup 4.26Gb which took just over 9mins to burn - tried this disc on both PS2's and Pioneer 747A DVD player and Pioneer DVR3100 DVD Recorder and Pioneer DVR107 burner - all players played the disc perfectly - the PS2's I was especially pleased with as movie usually go "blocky" after a while and especially towards the end.

All chapter skipping, menus, languages, subtitles, etc were perfect and access was very quick.

Conclusion
Compared to my usual Datasafe Ritek G04's I would have to say that this disc has compared more favourably IMHO. I will definitely be investing in more of these.

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So in the end, as dvd-r's themselves are picky.....don't know really what to tell anyone cept if you burn, and you run your pi/po tests and it comes back good...then you have good media..regardless of whether its ritek, TY and so forth.

[dmdsoftware2]

I received another 200 pack of 8x DVD+Rs today that were backordered.