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Fuel Efficient SUVs

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vik56in wrote:
Jul 31st, 2018 8:21 am
The reason your dad was able to get to 478,000 on his Sienna was because the vehicle was equipped with a powerful engine . On the flip side this powerful engine consumes more gas. If your dad's Sienna was equipped with a fuel efficient engine with lesser power , there was no way this vehicle would have reached 478,000. SUVs need powerful engines to ensure longevity . Generally SUVS equipped with an engine starting from V6 have a longer life than a 2.0L fuel efficient engine.
I respectfully disagree and request proof of that bold statement. There are tons of older CRV, Rav4s, Subarus, etc with smaller engines that produce way less hp than newer models that have been very reliable and have high kms. All modern cars can have 300,000+ km put on them, just a question of when does body rust out, etc.

A huge V6 in SUV only allows you to Tow more, but if just for a family, totally disagree any smaller fuel efficient engine can't get higher kms.
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sixer wrote:
Jul 31st, 2018 8:31 am
I respectfully disagree and request proof of that bold statement. There are tons of older CRV, Rav4s, Subarus, etc with smaller engines that produce way less hp than newer models that have been very reliable and have high kms. All modern cars can have 300,000+ km put on them, just a question of when does body rust out, etc.

A huge V6 in SUV only allows you to Tow more, but if just for a family, totally disagree any smaller fuel efficient engine can't get higher kms.
Yes, cars can go upto 300k because they are cars not big SUVS and can run smoothly with a smaller engine. CRVs and RAV4 are compact SUVs and not a big Sienna. You yourself state that a huge V6 in SUV allows you to Tow more .The weight in question is the weight of the SUV . Think it this way, which is a better option to tow the weight of a Sienna,smaller 2.0L and a 2.4L engine or a big V6.
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vik56in wrote:
Jul 31st, 2018 8:21 am
The reason your dad was able to get to 478,000 on his Sienna was because the vehicle was equipped with a powerful engine . On the flip side this powerful engine consumes more gas. If your dad's Sienna was equipped with a fuel efficient engine with lesser power , there was no way this vehicle would have reached 478,000. SUVs need powerful engines to ensure longevity . Generally SUVS equipped with an engine starting from V6 have a longer life than a 2.0L fuel efficient engine.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-d ... e23831205/
How a Toronto-area Corolla is driven beyond 999,999 kilometres
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tebore wrote:
Jul 31st, 2018 6:45 am
I love the oxymoron title of "fuel efficient SUV"
No SUV is fuel efficient. Efficiency is relative. Modern sedans of the same interior space get some 40mpg+ while SUVs might get 30mpg if babied.

So does your dad need the size of of the Sienna (which SUVs won't provide) or is efficiency the game here?
Realistically diesel is the only real option.
If you read my post, I clarified what I mean by fuel efficient.. within 10l/100km avg.
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engineered wrote:
Jul 30th, 2018 4:52 pm

OP, what does your dad use it for? Just for commuting? Hauling stuff? Hauling grandkids? (if not, start making babies already! :P )
He's just used to driving a big vehicle, and he likes to have to convenience to haul stuff since he does do a lot of work around the house (renos time to time).. and yes, few more yrs for grand kids :P
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2015 Audi Q5 TDI - if you can find one

3.0 TDI engine Common-Rail
272 Horses and a massive 428 lb-ft of torque, just massive
0-100 in 6.7 seconds
Quattro standard
Fuel efficiency: around 8L/100km mixed (amazing)

You won't find that kind of performance and frugality in any of the other SUVs.

And just to put this home, all TDI engines come with an 11 year 270k warranty for everything powertrain except the transmission (part of the VW settlement).

I think this is a no brainer if you can find a Q5 TDI in good shape.
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Anikiri wrote:
Jul 31st, 2018 1:33 pm
2015 Audi Q5 TDI - if you can find one

3.0 TDI engine Common-Rail
272 Horses and a massive 428 lb-ft of torque, just massive
0-100 in 6.7 seconds
Quattro standard
Fuel efficiency: around 8L/100km mixed (amazing)

You won't find that kind of performance and frugality in any of the other SUVs.

And just to put this home, all TDI engines come with an 11 year 270k warranty for everything powertrain except the transmission (part of the VW settlement).

I think this is a no brainer if you can find a Q5 TDI in good shape.
Is this really true? I asked one dealer about a 2015 TDI Q5 they have but they said warranty is done. Only the emission related parts are extended.
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STCman wrote:
Jul 31st, 2018 2:30 pm
Is this really true? I asked one dealer about a 2015 TDI Q5 they have but they said warranty is done. Only the emission related parts are extended.
This is the settlement for the 3.0TDI engines, maybe call the number there and ask to be sure.

https://www.vwcanadasettlement.ca/en/_3models
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The man has been driving a minivan for like an eternity. Are you sure he even wants a SUV? I'm sure he will be super happy no matter what you get him but why not just get another minivan.
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Jul 31st, 2018 5:11 pm
The man has been driving a minivan for like an eternity. Are you sure he even wants a SUV? I'm sure he will be super happy no matter what you get him but why not just get another minivan.
The problem I can see for someone whose last car is a 2003 model, they may find modern car has way too many nannies and touchscreens and electronic gizmos.
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No one mentioned the RAV4 Hybrid or RX350h hybrid Or Nissan Rogue Hybrid?
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There are plenty of tow trucks armed with big powerful engines that show an odometer over a million kms than there are Toyoto corollas with smaller engines that have gone over a million kms . The bottomline is that a Sienna is better off with an engine that is twice as powerful as a Corolla since a Sienna weighs twice the weight of a toyota corolla . This engine with more power will ensure more longevity though it may not be fuel efficient
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tebore wrote:
Jul 31st, 2018 6:45 am
I love the oxymoron title of "fuel efficient SUV"
No SUV is fuel efficient.
You're wrong, I drive a very fuel efficient large 7 seater SUV that averages between 5-6L/100 after 27,000 kms :) Not bad and yes it's a PHEV but don't say there's no fuel efficient SUV Winking Face
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Updating this thread:

We are seriously looking now, his bday is approaching and we want to get him out of the old Sienna. I am going to use it as a beater until it dies lol

But we are looking at 2013 Rx450h

Trying to stay within 30k budget. Anyone have experience with the rx450h? Reliability?

Thanks
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