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Jul 31st, 2018 2:36 pm
Loving my X-T20 for the short time I've had it. Granted it costs 10x the Walmart SL1 I started out with, this camera has me wanting to go out and shoot a LOT more.
Also... how much did you pay for an SL1 in order for it to be 1/10th the price of an X-T20 ??? I thought it was MSRP $400 or so?
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konfusion666 wrote:
Jul 31st, 2018 2:39 pm
I'm still a n00b but with the same body/lens as you.

question; why do you need a 23 f/2 since you can simply set the 18-55 to "23"? i'm guessing something to do with aperture?

I had purchased the famous Canon Nifty Fifty lens for my SL1 and found that a fixed lens makes you think much more in terms of framing and getting the right shot. You'll find yourself using your feet to zoom as opposed to standing across a street and snapping away.

Beyond this primes are generally sharper at their specified focal length than zooms.
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konfusion666 wrote:
Jul 31st, 2018 2:39 pm
I'm still a n00b but with the same body/lens as you.

question; why do you need a 23 f/2 since you can simply set the 18-55 to "23"? i'm guessing something to do with aperture?
I don't use the 18-55 much but it always amazes me what it can do. You just have to stop thinking of it as a kit lens. At 23mm, it's probably doing f/3, so the 23 f/2 would be about a stop and a third better. I'm mostly a prime shooter so I get why someone would want the 23mm instead, but I would not sell off the18-55. This lens really doesn't get enough credit for what it can do.
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konfusion666 wrote:
Jul 31st, 2018 2:41 pm
Also... how much did you pay for an SL1 in order for it to be 1/10th the price of an X-T20 ??? I thought it was MSRP $400 or so?
I got lucky during the Walmart clearance and purchased one with a kit lens for $99. Got carried away with lenses and accessories and fell out of love with the cumbersome nature of carrying a DSLR and multiple lenses (and that's a tiny DSLR, potentially smaller than the XT). The SL1 was great to learn on but quickly reached a ceiling.

This all added to why I want one lens that will suffice my needs. I even consider moving to the XE3 for a smaller package. Would do a X100 but like the ability to change lenses should I feel the want.
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Jonavin wrote:
Jul 31st, 2018 2:50 pm
I don't use the 18-55 much but it always amazes me what it can do. You just have to stop thinking of it as a kit lens. At 23mm, it's probably doing f/3, so the 23 f/2 would be about a stop and a third better. I'm mostly a prime shooter so I get why someone would want the 23mm instead, but I would not sell off the18-55. This lens really doesn't get enough credit for what it can do.
I likely will sell it and purchase the 23. Just hoping for a trade since it's easier/cheaper.
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Had a great experience with Amazon Canada this week with my 16mm f1.4 order.

I originally ordered the 16mm f1.4 as 'Used - Like New' however it arrived damaged (I am guessing amazon did not test if it's working). I promptly contacted amazon customer support and they asked me to return the item and order a brand new 16mm with price adjusted to my original order. Overall I received a brand new fuji 16mm with $400 discount.

My current Fuji setup now:
XT20
56mm f1.2
16mm f1.4
23mm f2
XF 18-55mm
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Aug 10th, 2018 11:32 am
Had a great experience with Amazon Canada this week with my 16mm f1.4 order.

I originally ordered the 16mm f1.4 as 'Used - Like New' however it arrived damaged (I am guessing amazon did not test if it's working). I promptly contacted amazon customer support and they asked me to return the item and order a brand new 16mm with price adjusted to my original order. Overall I received a brand new fuji 16mm with $400 discount.

My current Fuji setup now:
XT20
56mm f1.2
16mm f1.4
23mm f2
XF 18-55mm
Awesome! I'm a bit jelly.

Hijacking this post to ask other XT20 users (and even other X-series users) - do you do JPG or RAW? And if JPG, what is your preferred PC photo editor? Right now I'm doing JPG and editing in Paint.Net because it's free and I can't be bothered to buy Lightroom
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konfusion666 wrote:
Aug 10th, 2018 11:42 am
Awesome! I'm a bit jelly.

Hijacking this post to ask other XT20 users (and even other X-series users) - do you do JPG or RAW? And if JPG, what is your preferred PC photo editor? Right now I'm doing JPG and editing in Paint.Net because it's free and I can't be bothered to buy Lightroom
I shoot in both JPG and RAW. I rarely fit half my card in 1 session with that setting and I can decide to delete or keep whatever format afterward. I don't often do burst. Also, I use the Classic Chrome profile so having the RAW in case I don't like the color is a plus.

I use Photoshop mostly, since I often do some retouching.
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konfusion666 wrote:
Aug 10th, 2018 11:42 am
Awesome! I'm a bit jelly.

Hijacking this post to ask other XT20 users (and even other X-series users) - do you do JPG or RAW? And if JPG, what is your preferred PC photo editor? Right now I'm doing JPG and editing in Paint.Net because it's free and I can't be bothered to buy Lightroom
Using my X-Pro2 I shoot JPG + RAW, and I use an old version of Lightroom 5, which I was able to buy for like $25 a while ago (it was posted on RFD). Only problem is that I have to convert the RAW to a DNG file first using Adobe's free DNG converter since the older versions of Lightroom don't support my camera.

I haven't used paint.net but I often use pixlr.com if I want a browser-based tool in a pinch. It's got features similar to Photoshop, so if you're familiar with PS, then this should be easy to use as well.
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Unfortunately lost my x20 (technically not mirrorless, but part of the X series). I loved the camera but am now in the market for a new one. If I'm going to upgrade I would like something with much better low light performance.

What I loved most about the X20:
- Fast focus
- Overall Image quality
- Size

I mainly use the camera for travel photography.

I find the Fuji x-series camera lineup very confusing. Would appreciate replacement camera recommendations. My budget is ~$600 and I know this is on the low end.

Thanks
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Anyone have any cheap lens recommendations for portraiture (doesn't matter what brand, manual, etc)? The only lens I have right now is xc 16-50mm that came with my x-t20... or should I just buy an adapter and adapt some of my nikon lenses?
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jakemtl wrote:
Aug 17th, 2018 3:37 pm
Unfortunately lost my x20 (technically not mirrorless, but part of the X series). I loved the camera but am now in the market for a new one. If I'm going to upgrade I would like something with much better low light performance.

What I loved most about the X20:
- Fast focus
- Overall Image quality
- Size

I mainly use the camera for travel photography.

I find the Fuji x-series camera lineup very confusing. Would appreciate replacement camera recommendations. My budget is ~$600 and I know this is on the low end.

Thanks
Any of their recent cameras will be much better at low light, since APS-C is much bigger than a 2/3 sensor that the X20 has.

Here's a break down of Fuji's lineup of their current cameras (from budget friendly to more expensive):

Compact camera with APS-C sensor and fix focal lens: XF10, X100F
Interchangeable lens with a rangerfinder kind of look, with no viewfinder on the top (with EVF or OVF on the top left, or without any) : X-A5, X-E3, X-Pro2
Interchangeable lens with a DSLR style, with EVF on the top: X-T100, X-T20, X-T2
Interchangeable lens with 5-axis stabilized sensor and video focused: X-H1
and last, their medium format: GFX 50R

Unfortunately, Fuji doesn't make compact camera with a zoom lens anymore, so if that's a selling point to you, your choices are X-A5 or X-T100 with their kit lens. If a fix lens isn't a problem to you, the just released XF10 can be a good option. Those are the only 3 that is close to your budget if bought new. There's a lot more models to consider if you go used, but for that, you'll have to do some research on your own.

If you want something like your X20, at around 600, better low light and compact, you might consider the Sony RX100 series. Their mk 1 and 2 are within your budget brand new or you can get a mk 3 used.
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helloo wrote:
Aug 18th, 2018 12:11 am
Anyone have any cheap lens recommendations for portraiture (doesn't matter what brand, manual, etc)? The only lens I have right now is xc 16-50mm that came with my x-t20... or should I just buy an adapter and adapt some of my nikon lenses?
I'd recommend the 35mm f2 - fast focusing, sharp, light, and very versatile. Can usually find it used (mint condition) between 300-400 on Kijiji.
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Gin Martini wrote:
Aug 18th, 2018 12:57 am
Any of their recent cameras will be much better at low light, since APS-C is much bigger than a 2/3 sensor that the X20 has.

Here's a break down of Fuji's lineup of their current cameras (from budget friendly to more expensive):

Compact camera with APS-C sensor and fix focal lens: XF10, X100F
Interchangeable lens with a rangerfinder kind of look, with no viewfinder on the top (with EVF or OVF on the top left, or without any) : X-A5, X-E3, X-Pro2
Interchangeable lens with a DSLR style, with EVF on the top: X-T100, X-T20, X-T2
Interchangeable lens with 5-axis stabilized sensor and video focused: X-H1
and last, their medium format: GFX 50R

Unfortunately, Fuji doesn't make compact camera with a zoom lens anymore, so if that's a selling point to you, your choices are X-A5 or X-T100 with their kit lens. If a fix lens isn't a problem to you, the just released XF10 can be a good option. Those are the only 3 that is close to your budget if bought new. There's a lot more models to consider if you go used, but for that, you'll have to do some research on your own.

If you want something like your X20, at around 600, better low light and compact, you might consider the Sony RX100 series. Their mk 1 and 2 are within your budget brand new or you can get a mk 3 used.
Thanks for the awesome summary! I'm leaning towards the X-A5 or X-E3. Recommendations between these 2? I'd also be open to prior models (X-A3, X-E2).
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jakemtl wrote:
Aug 19th, 2018 12:03 am
Thanks for the awesome summary! I'm leaning towards the X-A5 or X-E3. Recommendations between these 2? I'd also be open to prior models (X-A3, X-E2).
No prob bud. I forgot to add that the XF10, X-A5 and X-T100 shares the same 24 mp Bayer sensor and X100F, X-E3, X-Pro2, X-T20 and X-T2 shares the same X-Trans sensor. Both are good and any models that share the same sensor will produce an image that is identical. I.E. : X-E3 vs X-Pro2 with the same lens = same image quality.

If you have the budget for, I recommend you the X-E3. You get a better physical controls like shutter speed, exposure compensation dials and a joystick to easily move your focus points. It also has useable 4k at 30 fps (X-A5 has 15 fps only, which is just useless) and an EVF.
As for the X-E2, it's really similar to the X-E3 without the 24mp res sensor, no 4K and has slower auto focus. Image quality wise, it'll produce very similar photos compared to the X-E3.

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