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All of the China/governments talk in this thread is very relevant to "Generation Jobless" and every single developed nation is affected by it. In this globalized economy, people are going to have to compete against each other but they can never compete against nations where rocket scientists are making less than $300/month. In a Utopian world economy poor nations will come up and developed nations such as Canada/USA will go down to that average. The only way to fight competition is either through innovation or war. When someone is willing to do your job for less money that means your job isn't worth as much as you think.

On another topic, I fail to see how coop is the solution to young graduates getting hired. When everybody starts jumping on the trend and the market balances itself the same problems will arise. Bottom line, if there is more new graduates than new job openings then obviously there will be people who are unemployed or underemployed. A good way to fix the problem would be to have a more rigorous university entrance system, which will never happen because universities and schools are businesses also. So then you go back full circle to try to create more jobs by enticing businesses which doesn't work because they can't compete globally unless they innovate or make your wages equivalent to that of India/China.
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with that suggested "fix", you aren't really solving the problem, you're simply diverting it.
If universities were to have more rigorous entrance exams, those unqualified individuals will simply do something else which will again lead to over supply to graduates in a different profession?
BoogieWilliams wrote:
Feb 18th, 2013 11:40 pm
All of the China/governments talk in this thread is very relevant to "Generation Jobless" and every single developed nation is affected by it. In this globalized economy, people are going to have to compete against each other but they can never compete against nations where rocket scientists are making less than $300/month. In a Utopian world economy poor nations will come up and developed nations such as Canada/USA will go down to that average. The only way to fight competition is either through innovation or war. When someone is willing to do your job for less money that means your job isn't worth as much as you think.

On another topic, I fail to see how coop is the solution to young graduates getting hired. When everybody starts jumping on the trend and the market balances itself the same problems will arise. Bottom line, if there is more new graduates than new job openings then obviously there will be people who are unemployed or underemployed. A good way to fix the problem would be to have a more rigorous university entrance system, which will never happen because universities and schools are businesses also. So then you go back full circle to try to create more jobs by enticing businesses which doesn't work because they can't compete globally unless they innovate or make your wages equivalent to that of India/China.
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BoogieWilliams wrote:
Feb 18th, 2013 11:40 pm
On another topic, I fail to see how coop is the solution to young graduates getting hired. When everybody starts jumping on the trend and the market balances itself the same problems will arise. Bottom line, if there is more new graduates than new job openings then obviously there will be people who are unemployed or underemployed.
Why is it that Toyota shares their TPS practice with other organizations without worrying about losing their competitive advantage? I would like to think that it's because they have a head start over others which they can maintain. Plus that there are always organizations that won't implement TPS.

Co-op was never meant to be a solution to fix the market, but rather a solution for individual student who would like to have a head start over others. You only gain more experience instead of losing it. As long as you keep accumulating more experience, others are unlikely to catch up. There are always ones who will never do co-op.
BoogieWilliams wrote:
Feb 18th, 2013 11:40 pm
A good way to fix the problem would be to have a more rigorous university entrance system, which will never happen because universities and schools are businesses also. So then you go back full circle to try to create more jobs by enticing businesses which doesn't work because they can't compete globally unless they innovate or make your wages equivalent to that of India/China.
I agree.
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jjege wrote:
Feb 18th, 2013 6:02 am
last thing, People shouldnt live in a city because they love it or because their kids go to school there , or bcuz their boy/girl-friend lives there ? F*** that ideology and that idiot.
they should love the city they can work and have enough income for happiness in , even if it was in the cape town, they should try everything to move there.... there are like 195 countries in world , say 20 of them had a good /stable economy , that makes around 20,000+ cities , if %10 of these cities had the job that will make you happy that makes it at least 2,000 cities to find what you need.. I visited some cities and seen young americans/canadians living in Ulanbator , or all the way other side in Accra happily after..
that's all well and good but most other economies are in the ****. i love cape town and lived in that part of the world for a year, but jobs are hard to come by for locals and international candidates are usually people with very marketable skills and experience that they cant find in the country. doctors who are specialists, city planners, etc. why would they make a visa just for you when there are professionals from all over the world applying too?

i moved as a volunteer making pennies on the dollar. most people moving overseas are old with savings.. sorry for being negative but if you got some practical advice for young people besides working in hostels i'd love to hear it.
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olek86 wrote:
Jan 25th, 2013 12:13 pm
How does everybody feel about this, where back to selling PR cards

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/arti ... -residency
As always, the top talent from everyone else will get priority over Canadians.

But then again, there really isn't much Canada can offer, other than its PR/Citizenship.......everything else is already made in China/India/Mexico/Vietnam/Bangladesh, etc

Only the PR Card and Citizenship/Passport are still made in Canada. :lol: (who knows the govt may outsource it to save money in future, lol)
Note: I do not work for any transit system.
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