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Gifted school in York Region

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Gifted school in York Region

Hi all, i've been trying to do research on school that are good for my gifted son. He just turned 5 and recently has his IQ evaluated by a licensed child psychologist with GAI of 134, in the 98-99 percentile. I am most certain the public school system would not be able to accommodate his academic and social needs due to all the typical characteristics he has as a gifted child. I've done some googling and found 2 schools seems to be for gifted children. The Academy For Gifted Children in Richmond Hill and another one is Prestige School in Richmond Hill. There was an old thread but it was over 10 years old so I am wondering if any parents had any experience with this two schools or have heard how good/bad they are with gifted kids.

Our family used to live in Markham/Richmond Hill area but moved to San Francisco 2 years ago. My parents still in Markham though. Because we recently found out our son is gifted (we had him tested due to all his bahaviours in school, including his reluctant to go to school everyday; always likes to hangout with older kids and teachers, never show interested in kids his age, etc). In San Francisco area there aren't that many school tailored for gifted children and I was delighted to be able to find quite a few schools in Markham/Richmond Hill area that are for gifted children. We are open to the idea of moving back to Richmond Hill/Markham just for my son's education reason.

Any inputs are much appreciated!!!
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I've read a lot of information regarding "gifted programs", and they always go back to the science based fact that these programs aren't beneficial.

Children learn best side by side to their peers.
At 5 years old, as a parent, I'd be concentrating on my young child's social skills, focus & concentration. These are basic elements that can be done in a public school system.

Be very aware/concerned of the standard, what makes a learning facility "gifted"; speaking from very close experiences, those they hire aren't exceptional.

Private schools attract and end up hiring fresh out of grad school "teachers"; they're underpaid, overworked, have no job security, and have no experience.
They take on these crappy jobs (working for horribly run private schools, with very demanding clients (parents) who honesty think they're paying for their child's best higher learning ......

Just be very aware. Do you own research. And don't count on the word of others. Some are fooled by the buzz words and fascade. I wouldn't touch any of these privately run schools in Ontario. They're definitely not worth the money or the education curricular.

http://educationnext.org/poor-results-f ... achievers/

www.psychologytoday.com/blog/gifted-ed- ... sses%3Famp

http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2013/learn ... -no-boost/
http://time.com/3698686/gifted-and-talented/

http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2013/learn ... -no-boost/
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I've read a lot of information regarding "gifted programs", and they always go back to the science based fact that these programs aren't beneficial.

Children learn best side by side to their peers.
At 5 years old, as a parent, I'd be concentrating on my young child's social skills, focus & concentration. These are basic elements that can be done in a public school system.

Be very aware/concerned of the standard, what makes a learning facility "gifted"; speaking from very close experiences, those they hire aren't exceptional.

Private schools attract and end up hiring fresh out of grad school "teachers"; they're underpaid, overworked, have no job security, and have no experience.
They take on these crappy jobs (working for horribly run private schools, with very demanding clients (parents) who honesty think they're paying for their child's best higher learning ......

Just be very aware. Do you own research. And don't count on the word of others. Some are fooled by the buzz words and fascade. I wouldn't touch any of these privately run schools in Ontario. They're definitely not worth the money or the education curricular.

http://educationnext.org/poor-results-f ... achievers/

www.psychologytoday.com/blog/gifted-ed- ... sses%3Famp

http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2013/learn ... -no-boost/
http://time.com/3698686/gifted-and-talented/

http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2013/learn ... -no-boost/
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Gone are the days when a mad scientist can just be holed up coming up with great principles such as Newton did. Even scientists and researchers at the highest level work in huge teams now. No social skills? That's going to be a problem. There's only so much a genius can do today without the aid of a computer, which in turns requires huge data from a wide network.

Maybe a programmer in AI? Given his inability to conform to society (peer group), he might go down that desolate path of the virtual world. Might be a great success but really, as a parent, I would be a bit worried about that. As said above, I don't think you should just blindly look for this :gifted' school and think 'voila, he's where he belongs and I can now just sit back in comfort"
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Thanks for the reply and I am definitely not blindly just looking for a gifted school. If you can understand what a parent of a gifted child encountered, you can understand why I’m doing research and want to get more opinions in gifted schools. Gifted children needs the academic challenged in order to keep them at peace and be able to learn other aspect of things. Social, emotional skills definitely could be a problem if the school can’t fulfill their academic needs. These children learned things in a different pace, and often time traditional school don’t have the resources to give them individualized attention and work at their proper level. Tons of gifted parents will tell you the challenges we are facing, and I’m just naming a few.

I appreciate your input and was hoping to get parents experience of these two particular schools.
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I wasn't even aware that there are private schools that take "gifted" students at such a young age.

Many or most boards in the Ontario public system have a gifted program that is either part or full-day (usually at a few schools that students are bussed to). The boards stream assessed kids into these programs typically starting in Grade 4 or 5. My understanding is that this is because suitability for gifted programs cannot be properly assessed before this age.

I agree with you that gifted students may need resources and attention that a regular school environment can't provide. However, I also agree with other respondents that Kindergarten is not really about academic achievement -- it is more about "socialization" -- and it is too early to make a decision about special education.
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manman310 wrote:
Nov 1st, 2017 6:56 pm
Hi all, i've been trying to do research on school that are good for my gifted son. He just turned 5 and recently has his IQ evaluated by a licensed child psychologist with GAI of 134, in the 98-99 percentile. I am most certain the public school system would not be able to accommodate his academic and social needs due to all the typical characteristics he has as a gifted child. I've done some googling and found 2 schools seems to be for gifted children. The Academy For Gifted Children in Richmond Hill and another one is Prestige School in Richmond Hill. There was an old thread but it was over 10 years old so I am wondering if any parents had any experience with this two schools or have heard how good/bad they are with gifted kids.

Our family used to live in Markham/Richmond Hill area but moved to San Francisco 2 years ago. My parents still in Markham though. Because we recently found out our son is gifted (we had him tested due to all his bahaviours in school, including his reluctant to go to school everyday; always likes to hangout with older kids and teachers, never show interested in kids his age, etc). In San Francisco area there aren't that many school tailored for gifted children and I was delighted to be able to find quite a few schools in Markham/Richmond Hill area that are for gifted children. We are open to the idea of moving back to Richmond Hill/Markham just for my son's education reason.

Any inputs are much appreciated!!!
YRDSB has gifted program from grade 4 to highschool for students who are determined to be gifted by a screening committee who takes into account much more than just an iq test.

Those fake private schools you listed aren't for gifted kids as any paying student can attend them

But not sure if your child will qualify as gifted under certified tests and criteria of the school board

http://www.yrdsb.ca/Programs/SpecEd/Pag ... edure.aspx
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My friends kid has been assessed as "profoundly gifted" - the school sent him for testing. They opted to put him on an IEP in the regular classroom a few years ago and it seems to be working out well.
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PACE is up in York. It's a private gifted school.
We were accepted but declined the offer. We weren't too keen on the principal.
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Thank you for response. The school board do the IEP testing at grade 3. My son is only 5 years old now. But he acts out and reject school if he doesn't get challenged academically. That's why i'm looking into schools that he can continue excel with his current level. At age 4, he's doing multiplications and current Kindergarten only teaching counting (just one of few example). If he doesn't get challenged enough, he will stop learning and socializing.
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canadiankorean wrote:
Nov 3rd, 2017 10:46 am
PACE is up in York. It's a private gifted school.
We were accepted but declined the offer. We weren't too keen on the principal.
Thank you Canadiankorean. I found very limited reviews about gifted school in york region. Would you mind tellling me which school you ended up choosing? And can you share with me your experience with the principal?
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Would any of the below options work?

1) Send your son to live with your parents for a few months and get him into one of the gifted schools. See how things are. If things are going well then you can move back.

2) You take a leave of absence for a few months and move back in with your parents with your son. Then you can take him to school and see how things work out. If great then plan on a move back. If you need to go back to San Fran to pack up then see if your parents would be willing to take your son to school and pick him up until you can move back.
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ds2chan wrote:
Nov 3rd, 2017 2:27 pm
Would any of the below options work?

1) Send your son to live with your parents for a few months and get him into one of the gifted schools. See how things are. If things are going well then you can move back.

2) You take a leave of absence for a few months and move back in with your parents with your son. Then you can take him to school and see how things work out. If great then plan on a move back. If you need to go back to San Fran to pack up then see if your parents would be willing to take your son to school and pick him up until you can move back.
Thanks ds2chan! That's such a good idea!! As crazy as it sounds, we really want the best for our son and willing to move back to Markham if that's what best for him. If any case i'll probably make up an excuse and take few months off work and go Canada. My son is 5, he is super attached to me so staying with my parents without me won't work, it'll drive my parents crazy LOL. Thanks again for your suggestion! At the meantime I have to make appointment with those schools and schedule a visit :)
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manman310 wrote:
Nov 3rd, 2017 2:33 pm
Thanks ds2chan! That's such a good idea!! As crazy as it sounds, we really want the best for our son and willing to move back to Markham if that's what best for him. If any case i'll probably make up an excuse and take few months off work and go Canada. My son is 5, he is super attached to me so staying with my parents without me won't work, it'll drive my parents crazy LOL. Thanks again for your suggestion! At the meantime I have to make appointment with those schools and schedule a visit :)
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MrWhiteCoffee wrote:
Nov 2nd, 2017 1:41 pm
YRDSB has gifted program from grade 4 to highschool for students who are determined to be gifted by a screening committee who takes into account much more than just an iq test.

Those fake private schools you listed aren't for gifted kids as any paying student can attend them

But not sure if your child will qualify as gifted under certified tests and criteria of the school board


http://www.yrdsb.ca/Programs/SpecEd/Pag ... edure.aspx
All that the screening committe does is a psycological testing or a WSIC ( at least that is what they used to do). If your child is already been tested by any psychologist and they find he is gifted, the school board wont dispute it.

Also PACE was set up to help gifted kids ( challenge them), they also need a gifted testing for entrance. So money just doesnt get you into the school.

OP- Talk to to schools , visit them and figure out if you want to send your kid there. The gifted program curriculum in school board doesnt do much, but it does force the kids to mingle with all children and also have kids who might have same interests / capabilities. This is really important, as it helps you cope with peers of all kinds. Dont just think for now ( about his behaviour or his lack of interest), think a few years ahead as to where he will need to be ( his social challenges might need more attention than his giftedness). You will also need to be more hands on parent with his learning, which means finding tihngs that he likes and finding proggrams outside of the school to keep him engaged and mentally stimulated.
I have a gifted kid too, and we have had our challenges keeping him out of trouble and feeding his interest. He is a high schooler now , but we kept him in the public school system in the gifted proggram , but had him in lots of other activities. I have also spent a lot of time with him keeping him engaged. Your childs curiosity and ability to grasp will never go away, but you will need to teach him other skills which may not come that easy.

All the best.

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