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GO Transit hiring safety officers. Starts $35.24/hr

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blitzforce wrote:
Oct 12th, 2017 2:42 pm
Regardless of how much anyone values their time, they get paid by market rate. Metrolinx is a crown corporation with a huge net loss. Who do you think will be paying for that loss? By your logic they can be paid $100/hour and they will STILL be underpaid because everyone else should raise themselves.

Btw, do you agree with the new minimum wage increase? If yes, then you are a hypocrite because people should be paid by raising themselves, not because the government tells the employers that they should pay $xx/hour.
No... they get paid for the level of worth they do.
Theyre a human meat shield.

Guess what happens during a terrorist attack? While everyone is getting mowed down by machine guns... these transit officers have to make sure everyone gets out safely until armed police arrive... bc that is their duty as a peace officer.

They can't just run away.

Due to political correctness they cant be called "officers".
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UrbanPoet wrote:
Oct 12th, 2017 3:05 pm
No... they get paid for the level of worth they do.
Theyre a human meat shield.

Guess what happens during a terrorist attack? While everyone is getting mowed down by machine guns... these transit officers have to make sure everyone gets out safely until armed police arrive... bc that is their duty as a peace officer.

They can't just run away.

Due to political correctness they cant be called "officers".
Well I guess they are worth $40/hr. I mean public sector admin clerks gets paid $25/hr.
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This is a good gig to becoming a police officer. You can't lateral transfer over to becoming a police officer though.

WOULD SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
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Cheapo-Findo wrote:
Oct 12th, 2017 3:27 pm
This is a good gig to becoming a police officer. You can't lateral transfer over to becoming a police officer though. Be prepared to work on rotation shifts, nights and days.

WOULD SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
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UrbanPoet wrote:
Oct 12th, 2017 8:54 am
To be fair... it is police work.
Go transit security are special constables. Thus they are sworn peace officers who have limited police powers.

They are expected to arrest and detain people for illegal activities on go transit property. Also they have the rights to enforce the criminal code on go transit property.

They have rights given to them that ordinary citizens do not posess. For example they can carry oc (pepper) spray. Also with such they can arrest and detain on reasonable grounds, which security guards cannot do. A security guard has extremely limited powers of citizens arrest. Thats not the case with go transit security.

They actually have to pass the same test/qualifications that a police officer must pass.

http://www.gotransit.com/public/en/abou ... fault.aspx


As you can see an oacp is required.

They're looking for cops without a gun... so there is a high degree of qualification and work involved... imagine arresting a cocaine dealer outside union station. Or breaking up a knife fight.
A security guard can run away and call the cops... a special constable has a sworn duty to step in (with only pepper spray and a stick).

And the work isnt easy (it only lookslike it). As you can see demonstrated in this thread... no one respects transity security officers let alone security officers in general. Few mnkw they are sworn peace officers and assumes themunder derogatory terms like "mall cop".
Now imagine some ruffian who gets a $300 ticket for not paying his fare.
"Youre just a mall cop fck off! You have no right to give me a ticket".
Then he takes a swipe at him bc its only a "mall cop" and he likes getting into fights for fun...
Now go transit officer has to arrest him for punching him. Meanwhile the guy screams "help help you have no right to handcuff me"
Mean while 40 people gather around taking videos screaming "let him go you have no right to arrest him youre just a mall cop!"

This is what transit special constables have to go through...
This is a law enforcement job. I bet if magically I was able to automatically give this job to anyone in this thread... that 99.9 % of you would get fired the first week. Thats after pissing your pants after one confrontation...
I put 99.9% incase anyone in this thread is an aspiring/former/current police officer, or someone with military background, or just a tough guy. But common... See how cool you would be if you walked in on a knife fight.
They are peace officers with limited police authority but their are still significant differences between their job and a police officer's.

You mention them intervening in a knife fight instead of running away. Peace officer or not, they would not be expected (and likely not permitted by policy) to interfene in a knife fight as they are unarmed. You don't bring a stick and spray to a knife fight, you being a gun. In Ontario, the oath a special constable takes is different than the one a police officer takes; the former doesn't have the "duty to prevent all crimes" part as special constables don't have the same training or equipment police have.
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UrbanPoet wrote:
Oct 12th, 2017 8:54 am
To be fair... it is police work.
Go transit security are special constables. Thus they are sworn peace officers who have limited police powers.

They are expected to arrest and detain people for illegal activities on go transit property. Also they have the rights to enforce the criminal code on go transit property.

They have rights given to them that ordinary citizens do not posess. For example they can carry oc (pepper) spray. Also with such they can arrest and detain on reasonable grounds, which security guards cannot do. A security guard has extremely limited powers of citizens arrest. Thats not the case with go transit security.

They actually have to pass the same test/qualifications that a police officer must pass.

http://www.gotransit.com/public/en/abou ... fault.aspx


As you can see an oacp is required.

They're looking for cops without a gun... so there is a high degree of qualification and work involved... imagine arresting a cocaine dealer outside union station. Or breaking up a knife fight.
A security guard can run away and call the cops... a special constable has a sworn duty to step in (with only pepper spray and a stick).

And the work isnt easy (it only lookslike it). As you can see demonstrated in this thread... no one respects transity security officers let alone security officers in general. Few mnkw they are sworn peace officers and assumes themunder derogatory terms like "mall cop".
Now imagine some ruffian who gets a $300 ticket for not paying his fare.
"Youre just a mall cop fck off! You have no right to give me a ticket".
Then he takes a swipe at him bc its only a "mall cop" and he likes getting into fights for fun...
Now go transit officer has to arrest him for punching him. Meanwhile the guy screams "help help you have no right to handcuff me"
Mean while 40 people gather around taking videos screaming "let him go you have no right to arrest him youre just a mall cop!"

This is what transit special constables have to go through...
This is a law enforcement job. I bet if magically I was able to automatically give this job to anyone in this thread... that 99.9 % of you would get fired the first week. Thats after pissing your pants after one confrontation...
I put 99.9% incase anyone in this thread is an aspiring/former/current police officer, or someone with military background, or just a tough guy. But common... See how cool you would be if you walked in on a knife fight.
Very well put;

To those who think they are "mall cops". They are in fact sworn in as Special Constables with the OPP and as such have powers of police whilst on duty and in relation to any Metrolinx property; they can enforce both Federal (Criminal Code) and Provincial (POA) legislation. They should not be mistaken as Security Guards or Fare Inspectors....

Great stepping stone for anyone who wants to go into policing; When I went through the Police College there were about 15-20 recruits who were former Special Constables with various agencies (one was a former TSO with GO).

Very undervalued job, lot of us in policing wonder how some of the Transit guys or TCHC guys do it day in and day out. Having patrolled some rough streets at night and responding to robberies, knife fights and gun calls at or near transit areas, I would definitely not go into any of those calls without a firearm and or taser. These gals and girls are going in without a gun or taser as such they definitely deserve the benefits they receive.

Although I should think GO should rename the TSO title to something along the lines of what the TTC or YRT has, but that's another discussion.
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Comm wrote:
Oct 12th, 2017 4:03 pm
Very well put;

To those who think they are "mall cops". They are in fact sworn in as Special Constables with the OPP and as such have powers of police whilst on duty and in relation to any Metrolinx property; they can enforce both Federal (Criminal Code) and Provincial (POA) legislation. They should not be mistaken as Security Guards or Fare Inspectors....

Great stepping stone for anyone who wants to go into policing; When I went through the Police College there were about 15-20 recruits who were former Special Constables with various agencies (one was a former TSO with GO).

Very undervalued job, lot of us in policing wonder how some of the Transit guys or TCHC guys do it day in and day out. Having patrolled some rough streets at night and responding to robberies, knife fights and gun calls at or near transit areas, I would definitely not go into any of those calls without a firearm and or taser. These gals and girls are going in without a gun or taser as such they definitely deserve the benefits they receive.

Although I should think GO should rename the TSO title to something along the lines of what the TTC or YRT has, but that's another discussion.
It is very unlikely that they are expected to knowingly respond to a knife or gun call. I realize that they do important work, but it is not policing and the above is one reason why it's not.

Special constables are to police what nurse practitioners are to doctors. They may have some of the powers and duties of doctors, but it's still not the same job.
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Comm wrote:
Oct 12th, 2017 4:03 pm
Very well put;

To those who think they are "mall cops". They are in fact sworn in as Special Constables with the OPP and as such have powers of police whilst on duty and in relation to any Metrolinx property; they can enforce both Federal (Criminal Code) and Provincial (POA) legislation. They should not be mistaken as Security Guards or Fare Inspectors....

Great stepping stone for anyone who wants to go into policing; When I went through the Police College there were about 15-20 recruits who were former Special Constables with various agencies (one was a former TSO with GO).

Very undervalued job, lot of us in policing wonder how some of the Transit guys or TCHC guys do it day in and day out. Having patrolled some rough streets at night and responding to robberies, knife fights and gun calls at or near transit areas, I would definitely not go into any of those calls without a firearm and or taser. These gals and girls are going in without a gun or taser as such they definitely deserve the benefits they receive.

Although I should think GO should rename the TSO title to something along the lines of what the TTC or YRT has, but that's another discussion.
All public sector jobs are undervalued jobs. Especially the ones RFD members are doing.
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Those are minimal requirements in the job ad. It doesn't mean that they'll hiring someone who can meet the minimal requirements like RFD posters. Like any job posting, they'll likely bring in the most qualified applicants which I'd guess would be experienced police officers looking for something low stress.
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This salary is kind of low for a special Constable.

Thought they'll be paid better than this
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UrbanPoet wrote:
Oct 12th, 2017 8:54 am
To be fair... it is police work.
Go transit security are special constables. Thus they are sworn peace officers who have limited police powers.

They are expected to arrest and detain people for illegal activities on go transit property. Also they have the rights to enforce the criminal code on go transit property.

They have rights given to them that ordinary citizens do not posess. For example they can carry oc (pepper) spray. Also with such they can arrest and detain on reasonable grounds, which security guards cannot do. A security guard has extremely limited powers of citizens arrest. Thats not the case with go transit security.

They actually have to pass the same test/qualifications that a police officer must pass.

http://www.gotransit.com/public/en/abou ... fault.aspx


As you can see an oacp is required.

They're looking for cops without a gun... so there is a high degree of qualification and work involved... imagine arresting a cocaine dealer outside union station. Or breaking up a knife fight.
A security guard can run away and call the cops... a special constable has a sworn duty to step in (with only pepper spray and a stick).

And the work isnt easy (it only lookslike it). As you can see demonstrated in this thread... no one respects transity security officers let alone security officers in general. Few mnkw they are sworn peace officers and assumes themunder derogatory terms like "mall cop".
Now imagine some ruffian who gets a $300 ticket for not paying his fare.
"Youre just a mall cop fck off! You have no right to give me a ticket".
Then he takes a swipe at him bc its only a "mall cop" and he likes getting into fights for fun...
Now go transit officer has to arrest him for punching him. Meanwhile the guy screams "help help you have no right to handcuff me"
Mean while 40 people gather around taking videos screaming "let him go you have no right to arrest him youre just a mall cop!"

This is what transit special constables have to go through...
This is a law enforcement job. I bet if magically I was able to automatically give this job to anyone in this thread... that 99.9 % of you would get fired the first week. Thats after pissing your pants after one confrontation...
I put 99.9% incase anyone in this thread is an aspiring/former/current police officer, or someone with military background, or just a tough guy. But common... See how cool you would be if you walked in on a knife fight.
Thank you for such a well-reasoned and balanced response. Such a welcome relief from the knee-jerk posts you typically see on this forum when discussing anything remotely related to public service
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Hanniballs wrote:
Oct 13th, 2017 2:25 am
Thank you for such a well-reasoned and balanced response. Such a welcome relief from the knee-jerk posts you typically see on this forum when discussing anything remotely related to public service
When you see all those "how to get into public sector" threads in this forum, you don't need to be a genius to know that public sector jobs are low-stressed, "decent" pay, and has higher stability than private sector jobs. I used to work in non-profit fully government-funded for a year and I can tell you it's super chill. Many of the employees there are always on Youtube/shopping sites. If client comes in, just work for 1/2 hour and return back to relaxation mode.
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blitzforce wrote:
Oct 12th, 2017 2:42 pm
Regardless of how much anyone values their time, they get paid by market rate. Metrolinx is a crown corporation with a huge net loss. Who do you think will be paying for that loss? By your logic they can be paid $100/hour and they will STILL be underpaid because everyone else should raise themselves.

Btw, do you agree with the new minimum wage increase? If yes, then you are a hypocrite because people should be paid by raising themselves, not because the government tells the employers that they should pay $xx/hour.
Not going to go in details but your argument is full of fallacies, and addressing it would make me stoop to your ultra low dungeon level so I'm not going to go there!
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isgaard wrote:
Oct 13th, 2017 3:55 pm
Not going to go in details but your argument is full of fallacies, and addressing it would make me stoop to your ultra low dungeon level so I'm not going to go there!
Look at the amount of posts in those "how to get into public sector" threads....don't tell me there are that many people looking to get into public sector due to low pay and high stress.
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ConsoleWatcher wrote:
Oct 12th, 2017 3:51 pm
They are peace officers with limited police authority but their are still significant differences between their job and a police officer's.

You mention them intervening in a knife fight instead of running away. Peace officer or not, they would not be expected (and likely not permitted by policy) to interfene in a knife fight as they are unarmed. You don't bring a stick and spray to a knife fight, you being a gun. In Ontario, the oath a special constable takes is different than the one a police officer takes; the former doesn't have the "duty to prevent all crimes" part as special constables don't have the same training or equipment police have.
They are Also trained in use of force model and techniques.

Im not saying theyre going to jump in and king fu kick the knife/gun out of their hands... or football charge in with pepper spray squirting everywhere and their baton swinging like babe ruth.

But at the least they evacuate bystanders from the area. in this day and age keep them from getting to close for a selfie or world star hiphop video. Control the area so no randoms get involved and only police/medic can come in.
Also deescalate the situation through communication.
Most fights start as an arguement gone too far... they might have knifes out to try and talk big. If they know a special constable is there with cops on the way they might just settle down before its a bigger charge.

"You dont have to do this man. If you two drop the knife its only a weapon charge... maybe only public disturbance if you get lucky!! ... one step further and you get assault!!! Is that worth it to you man!?"

"Screw you pig! This guy owes me money! Im gonna shank him so bad, he gonna wish i never shank 'em!"

"I don't owe you nuttin, imma shank you too!"

"Dont dooo itttt!! You have your whole life ahead you!"

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