Got my unrestricted gun license: Rifle Suggestions

[George W. Bush]

All right peeps... I need some help here from gun owners and such. I got my gun (unrestricted) license, and plan to getting the handgun as well. For the time being, I want to concentrate on the rifles.

I really like the mechanism and the potential of the bolt type of guns.

For the ones now knowing what they are, here is a picture of a typical bolt action gun:



I am looking for suggestions and help on getting a decent bolt action rifle.

I am mostly interested in long distance shooting, and NOT hunting animals, or such. I intend to shoot at ranges of at least 100+ meters (500 feet or so).

I like precision shooting at long distances, and would like to purchase a bolt rifle that is capable of accurate shooting at very long distances. Any suggestions?

Also, I live near Toronto, and need to know where there are outside ranges where I can practice and sign for precision shooting.

Thank you!

[Nav]

I cant help you with the rifle suggestion, but would like to inquire about the license process.

How long did it take? (End to end), and how much does the safety course cost? (how long is the course?)

I tried to get this info by calling the ministry but I was on hold for almost 10 minutes and gave up.

Thanks,

Nav

[George W. Bush]

Went to a gun shop - they all have application forms. Course took two days - 8 hours per day. Do the practical, and paper tests, and voila. Send in the papers, and a month later or so get the license. Double voila. It may seem complicated, but it easy. Go to a local gun shop/dealer, ask for application and you are done.

Cost about $110 for course + book, and $40 for test, roughly.

[ricoboxing]

oshawa skeet and gun has a 300m rifle range.

my first rifle was a savage mkII, .22lr
i used it to hunt small game and for plinking.

get a .22lr when youre starting out, ammo is dirt cheap so you can shoot away non stop.

[UrbanPoet]

Cant help you there =( I only do hand guns and antiques.

[mrwinky]

speaking from hunting experience, I would look into a .270 (a good flat shooting, all around decent rifle) I purchased a Tikka T3 Lite in stainless. As a tip I would recommend that you go with a heavier rifle. Since the lighter the rifle the bigger the kick My Tikka comes in at 7 pounds with scope. As well try looking around at used rifles, you can get yourself something decent on the cheap to practice with, and then move up in the world. Just remember to take care of it, and practice safe shooting. Good luck


Winky Out

[Denich]

so you have your PAL but didnt get RPAL???

at first learn how to shoot, get yourself a .22lr something like a cooey or savage because anything else will kill you in terms of cost (rifle, accessories, AMMO!)
just an example
Savage mk2 .22lr - $210
Scope - around $100
Ammo - $15-$20 for 500

now centerfire
Rem 700 - $1300
Scope - luepold vx-3 - $1200
rings, bipod, new stock, barrel, and so on and so forth (trust me you will want all that, not need but want) another probably $600
Ammo (if not reloading) .308 probably around $25 for 20 rounds

as for range check silverdale and guelph. there are quite a few outdoor ranges in your area

[frankeng2003]

ruger 10/22. I hear they have 50 round magazines for it. 22 lr ammo is cheap and you don't need to reload.
for rifles, how about a Lee enfield SMLE. 10 round magazine bolt action rifle. I hear they are affordable, and fairly good.

[Bazooka Joe]

oshawa skeet and gun has a 300m rifle range.

my first rifle was a savage mkII, .22lr
i used it to hunt small game and for plinking.

get a .22lr when youre starting out, ammo is dirt cheap so you can shoot away non stop.

+1

A brick of 22lr is so cheap.

Expect sticker shock when you start buying high power ammo though.

I know you said you don't hunt, so I have no idea what to recommend. A target air rifle costs several thousand dollars, I shudder to think what someone would spend on a target high power rifle.

Edit: For a high power rifle 100m is actually considered short range. I know a number of people who have taken a deer at 300+ yards.

Edit 2: Your conversion program needs work :p

Edit 3 (this could be a record): Should I really be providing advice to a politically motivated person who is looking to purchase and train with long range rifle work expressly not for the purpose of hunting? I dunno about this...

[162]

If you choose to buy only one rifle, skip the .22 idea. Standard calibre's ranging from .243 - .280 will give you the best target shooting capability. Anything larger in standard calibre tends to drop off over a distance greater than 500ft., the exception being magnum loads such as .300/7mm/.264.
If I was to choose one, I'd pick a .270 or .280 as they are the most versatile calibres. If you ever decide to begin hunting, a .270/.280 is sufficient for deer, elk, moose, or bear.
For target shooting, don't get a short barrel as this will restrict accuracy.
A good scope with good scope rings is a must. Suggest 3X9 variable minimum if not 4X12 for long range (800ft)
Any of the calibres above with good practice and ammo should give you 2-3 inch groupings at 500ft.
Rifles - $500-$600
Scopes/Rings - $250 - $350

As a package they can be cheaper.

[heymike]

skip the .22 idea.

Economically, it is still probably cheaper to get 2 guns, one being the 22. "Range" is relative, in my opinion, based on the weapon in hand. I would argue 50 yards with a open sight 22 vs. 500 years with scoped a 7mm provides much the same effect when learning marksmanship. Difference is the 22 shell costs 10-20 cents while a 7mm will run you $2 a shell for the cheap ones. Also, bigger guns = sorer shoulder.

If you plan on shooting off a table for your tenure it is moot argument. But if you are trying shots from different positions, ranges, targets, etc, nothin beats cheap ammo for this purpose.

Similar to printers, you may want to look at the ammo prices before getting the gun.


But for bigger guns, I think the 270 is likely one of the best bangs for the buck; excuse the pun. You can down anything with them and you don't have to suffer the embarrasment of putting a sky light in a animal if you have buck fever. Ammo is reasonable as well, for the cheap stuff.

[Spray]

100 meters is easy

Ruger 10/22 or Remington 597. Both great guns, upgrade the hammer on the 597 and it shoots better then then 10/22 at half the cost.

Post on canadiangunnutz.com if you're serious. Please dont post firearm related stuff on here, gonna get flamed too much.

Then again I don't even know if you're serious with this topic.

[UrbanPoet]

100 meters is easy

Ruger 10/22 or Remington 597. Both great guns, upgrade the hammer on the 597 and it shoots better then then 10/22 at half the cost.

Post on canadiangunnutz.com if you're serious. Please dont post firearm related stuff on here, gonna get flamed too much.

Then again I don't even know if you're serious with this topic.

no flaming here yet...
Then again... theres the Gunnutz effect similar to the RFD effect

[George W. Bush]

I rather get a nice rifle from start vs. spending money on two. The .270 or a .280 for distance AND accuracy I guess... eh?

The .22 may be too small I think and rather skip on it. I do not intend to hunt animals, I am against that concept. I prefer to target shoot from long distances - precision shooting that is.

Are these rifles (.270 and .280 capable of 1km + distances)?

Thank you.

[162]

Are these rifles (.270 and .280 capable of 1km + distances)?

Thank you.

Capable of bullet travel that far - yes. Accuracy - no.
I would say their bullet drop is about 12"@400 yards increases big time past that point.