Grade 12's applying this year...

[skuric]

LOL, awesome...conflicting replies.

:P I'm around 90% sure about what I said lol - As in, I distinctly remember him saying that. I'll check though and post back

[kt11]

:P I'm around 90% sure about what I said lol - As in, I distinctly remember him saying that. I'll check though and post back

Probably did...but the one guy who got rejected at our school just went with Life Science. Maybe the didn't send him the alt. because he already had his back-up (life science).

[LegiT]

lol...wait, so you're allowed multiple applications to a faculty?

I'm in Toronto but have no interest in going to UofT for my undergrad nor do I want to enter radiology at McMaster.

And regarding life sciences at McMaster...there's two options, and I believe honours is an extra year.
Is it beneficial to stay the extra year (money isn't an issue here) and go for honours? Is it looked at when applying for a post undergrad school (e.g., med, dentistry)? Will I be overlooked when applying to a post undergrad spot because the degree took 3 years?

Sorry if my questions seem bothersome. But thanks for your replies.

Honours Science
(No longer called Honours Science, Complementary Studies Option)
The streams available are:
Geoscience (A)
Life Sciences (B)
Mathematical Sciences (C)
Physical Sciences (D)

and

THREE-YEAR B.Sc. PROGRAMMES

Geoscience
Life Science
Mathematical Science
Physical Science

[Dark-Colonel]

Thanks for the quick reply! My exact situation is I have been an honors student throughout elementary and up until grade 11 where I received a 77-78% average throughout (slacking off hardcore, not a good reason, but its the correct one and it didn't help that I took courses I hated). Say I get a 90% average in grade 12. Will business schools such as Schulich automatically deny me entrance because of my grade 11 marks or will they overlook them and base my regular acceptance on my grade 12 marks. Thanks again!

I went to the University Fairs in Sept '06 and at one presentation a presenter made it very clear to everyone.

"Final acceptance/rejection gets based on your six top grade 12 courses". It doesn't matter what school, what program. The final yes or no are based on those 6 grades that you have.

The extras such as volunteering, sports clubs, school clubs, and etcetera is just something that will let them make their decision easier.

There is only one university where your top six grade 12 courses aren't enough. The Royal Military College in Kingston bases 50% of your acceptance on grades, and the other 50% of your military potential.

I have friends who have no extra curricular activities at all get their number one choice.

Honestly, the BEST way to find out exactly what you need is to either e-mail the head person of that faculty/program or attend the University fair and ask the people there. If your lucky, somebody here might actually be in that exact same school/program you want to go.

[alv077]

If you are applying to a school you are grossly overqualified for, hold out until the end before accepting.

Huge, huge scholarships. HUGE.

[blizzah]

If you are applying to a school you are grossly overqualified for, hold out until the end before accepting.

Huge, huge scholarships. HUGE.

So during the accepting period, they will add scholarships, just mail them out? Confused.

[kt11]

So during the accepting period, they will add scholarships, just mail them out? Confused.

They'll include it in the offer letter, they'll tell you're elgible for $xxxx.xx as long as you keep xx.0% average by the end of the year.

[alv077]

They'll include it in the offer letter, they'll tell you're elgible for $xxxx.xx as long as you keep xx.0% average by the end of the year.

Depends which school...

For me, they followed up with more letters and offered more and more each time. This is at a "lesser" school though - doubt you will see much of this at the more prestigious schools.

[skuric]

I remember getting a scholarship from Ryerson like 3 days before the deadline to choose your uni. I already chose another uni a while ago and submitted. Not that it mattered in my case, but I woulda been peeved if I chose another uni but would have chose Ryerson if they sent the scholarship stuff earlier.

[Jon Lai]

I went to the University Fairs in Sept '06 and at one presentation a presenter made it very clear to everyone.

"Final acceptance/rejection gets based on your six top grade 12 courses". It doesn't matter what school, what program. The final yes or no are based on those 6 grades that you have.

The extras such as volunteering, sports clubs, school clubs, and etcetera is just something that will let them make their decision easier.

There is only one university where your top six grade 12 courses aren't enough. The Royal Military College in Kingston bases 50% of your acceptance on grades, and the other 50% of your military potential.

I have friends who have no extra curricular activities at all get their number one choice.

Honestly, the BEST way to find out exactly what you need is to either e-mail the head person of that faculty/program or attend the University fair and ask the people there. If your lucky, somebody here might actually be in that exact same school/program you want to go.

Well it's like this - only do extracurriculars if you have spare time. Don't take time out of your studying to do extracurriculars and think that universities will consider that, because they won't.

I'm also in grade 12 this year and planning to attend either engineering or chartered accountancy at Waterloo. Anyone know if the CA program is strict on the acceptance and what I should be aware of? So far from what I've heard it seems like I'll probably have an easier time applying to computer engineering in comparison to chartered accountancy.

[kt11]

Well it's like this - only do extracurriculars if you have spare time. Don't take time out of your studying to do extracurriculars and think that universities will consider that, because they won't.

I'm also in grade 12 this year and planning to attend either engineering or chartered accountancy at Waterloo. Anyone know if the CA program is strict on the acceptance and what I should be aware of? So far from what I've heard it seems like I'll probably have an easier time applying to computer engineering in comparison to chartered accountancy.

Much easier to get into Engineering. I think alv077 will cover you on AFM...unlesss you mean Math/CA.

[alv077]

Well it's like this - only do extracurriculars if you have spare time. Don't take time out of your studying to do extracurriculars and think that universities will consider that, because they won't.

I'm also in grade 12 this year and planning to attend either engineering or chartered accountancy at Waterloo. Anyone know if the CA program is strict on the acceptance and what I should be aware of? So far from what I've heard it seems like I'll probably have an easier time applying to computer engineering in comparison to chartered accountancy.

Depends which CA program you want to get into...

For the math/ca and biotech/ca programs, marks play a major role. Of course, extracurriculars probably help. Not 100% sure, but supplementary is worth a maximum of 5% bonus in all programs. For biotech, at least, I know that you WILL need the average stated on electronicinfo.ca (I have a friend with decent ec's but a percent shy of the required mark)

AFM is a bit different. You need to achieve a reasonable mark in order to be invited to write the AFMAA. If you bomb that, it doesn't matter what your mark was.

Some AFMAA writers that I have talked to wrote some pretty stupid things on the assignment and were, obviously, rejected. A sample question would be along the lines of...

"Describe a recent situation where you has a disagreement with one of your peers. How did you resolve the situation?"

The correct answer is NOT, "I told him to shut up because my way was better!"

[nkwu]

AFM = public right?

It doesn't matter what school, what program

Your acceptance is based on those six marks primarily. But some Universities give a +/- on the average depending on which school students come from (rightfully so, my school underprepared me). And to get an early acceptance, you'l need to have stellar first half/semester grade 12 marks and equally stellar grade 11 marks.

off topic question: is the change in math for high school students happenign this year? (the decline continues..)

[skuric]

AFM = public right?



Your acceptance is based on those six marks primarily. But some Universities give a +/- on the average depending on which school students come from (rightfully so, my school underprepared me). And to get an early acceptance, you'l need to have stellar first half/semester grade 12 marks and equally stellar grade 11 marks.

off topic question: is the change in math for high school students happenign this year? (the decline continues..)

I asked an ECE prof (actually, chair of ECE) at UofT earlier this year if they still look at which school students come from (in order to boost your avg slightly or w/e), and he said no, but that they used to do it back when they still had grade 13, and he also said that they would like to start doing it again. I know this doesn't apply to all programs/uni's, but I'm just telling you what I heard from him about engineering at UofT.

Also, yes, the new math curriculum is coming this September. I feel sorry for the incoming grade 12s... there's going to be no more discrete math taught whatsoever in any grade 12 math course. What's worse, is that a few of my friends who did calc or geo again in the summer got totally %$%#*& because they had to do the new grade 11 course in order to do the grade 12 Adv Func course, IN ORDER TO do the grade 12 Calc & Vectors course... sucks balls, they had to do 2 extra courses they didn't need to really...

[Jon Lai]

Depends which CA program you want to get into...

For the math/ca and biotech/ca programs, marks play a major role. Of course, extracurriculars probably help. Not 100% sure, but supplementary is worth a maximum of 5% bonus in all programs. For biotech, at least, I know that you WILL need the average stated on electronicinfo.ca (I have a friend with decent ec's but a percent shy of the required mark)

AFM is a bit different. You need to achieve a reasonable mark in order to be invited to write the AFMAA. If you bomb that, it doesn't matter what your mark was.

Some AFMAA writers that I have talked to wrote some pretty stupid things on the assignment and were, obviously, rejected. A sample question would be along the lines of...

"Describe a recent situation where you has a disagreement with one of your peers. How did you resolve the situation?"

The correct answer is NOT, "I told him to shut up because my way was better!"

Hmm.. I always though there was a pure CA degree, is there not? Because in the guide book, there is a row that says "Chartered Accountancy" (under Math though), never heard of Biotech and Accountancy together.. how does that work?

Yea, I've heard all about the AFMAA, I believe it shouldn't be too difficult to write down what they want to read. Right now I'm just kind of worried whether or not I should apply to CA and whether or not I'll actually make it.

For the past few years I've wanted to go into Computer Engineering, but with the recent surge in the IT field, I'm also slowly picking up accountancy as an alternative, because it's almost a guaranteed job like pharmaceutical (unfortunately I'm not a bio person - I'm more phy/chem). Unfortunately, it seems like CA won't be easy to get into - according to the guide book Waterloo wants at least a 90 average...