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The Great Water Heater Rental Scam

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i have reliance water heater and they are asking me to get protection for my ac and furnace as well for unlimited repairs with 19$ per month is it worth to add ?
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mattdominic wrote:
Aug 15th, 2017 1:27 pm
i have reliance water heater and they are asking me to get protection for my ac and furnace as well for unlimited repairs with 19$ per month is it worth to add ?
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

$19/mth x 12 = $228/yr + tax
After 5yrs = $1140
After 10yrs = $2280
After 15yrs = $3420
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chimaican wrote:
Aug 15th, 2017 12:44 pm
Did you consider having them service the tank before you buyout? Get a replacement anode rod.
Will they do that at request? Especially when I just asked about the buyout haha
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RandomSanity wrote:
Aug 16th, 2017 4:26 pm
Will they do that at request? Especially when I just asked about the buyout haha
I did with Direct Energy. Haha.

Had them replace the anode rod, power vent fan, and temperature gauge. LOL
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RandomSanity wrote:
Aug 16th, 2017 4:26 pm
Will they do that at request? Especially when I just asked about the buyout haha
They're too incompetent to put 2+2 together lol. However, I'm not sure if I agree that a 9 year old tank is half way through end of life - I would say it's closer to end of life than half way. I was in a similar situation as you last year but the it was over 10 years old and they wanted almost $800 for buy out.
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Jazmina wrote:
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They're too incompetent to put 2+2 together lol. However, I'm not sure if I agree that a 9 year old tank is half way through end of life - I would say it's closer to end of life than half way. I was in a similar situation as you last year but the it was over 10 years old and they wanted almost $800 for buy out.
I would tend to agree with this. I think when it comes to the health of the tank, a lot of it depends on the hardness & water quality in your area, and whether the tank was properly maintained. Was the anode rod changed out no later than every 5 years? Changing the rod will extend the life of the tank.
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Not to derail the thread, but, general question regarding water softeners since there is conflicting information all over the web. Some say pro others the opposite. Do water softeners shorten or lengthen the longevity of a water tank?
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chimaican wrote:
Aug 16th, 2017 11:40 pm
Not to derail the thread, but, general question regarding water softeners since there is conflicting information all over the web. Some say pro others the opposite. Do water softeners shorten or lengthen the longevity of a water tank?
My whole plumbing system would seize up without a water softener. Especially the shower heads with their tiny holes. As it is with a 3k+ softener we get some of the rain head holes clogging. I can't see how the water heater wouldn't suffer the same fate from hard water. The minerals would build at the bottom of the tank and you would be heating through all that scale. Should always take a bucket off the bottom every month.
Gbill2004: Thanks but I'll just smell the couch before/if I buy it.

jonnyb: I go in there like PICASSO and toss the glue everywhere, I don't care what house I'm on.
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chimaican wrote:
Aug 16th, 2017 11:39 pm
I would tend to agree with this. I think when it comes to the health of the tank, a lot of it depends on the hardness & water quality in your area, and whether the tank was properly maintained. Was the anode rod changed out no later than every 5 years? Changing the rod will extend the life of the tank.
I did not know this! Good information as I bought mine. Would I require a plumber to come in and do this? Anything else that would extend the life of the tank?
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Not to derail the thread, but, general question regarding water softeners since there is conflicting information all over the web. Some say pro others the opposite. Do water softeners shorten or lengthen the longevity of a water tank?
Most definitely yes if you live in area with hard water! Hard water makes a mess of things - even will destroy your kettle if you don't descale it. Technically anything above 0grains per gallon is considered hard but obviously there's varying degrees. I live in a city with very hard water - household water is 24 grains/gallon.

https://www.fcwa.org/water/hardness.htm
http://funkyfluff.ca/water-hardness-in-canada/
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chimaican wrote:
Aug 16th, 2017 11:40 pm
Not to derail the thread, but, general question regarding water softeners since there is conflicting information all over the web. Some say pro others the opposite. Do water softeners shorten or lengthen the longevity of a water tank?
From what I understand of the processes involved, a water softener will shorten the life of the tank if the anode rod is not inspected and changed as needed.
The residual salt in the water increases the rate of galvanic action, so the sacrifical anode will deteriorate more rapidly. A water softener will reduce scale build up in the hot water tank hard water, but if the anode is not replaced, the scale build up, in my opinion, is a moot point.
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Anyone know when the next GSW sale at Lowe's will be?

It's weird, the Lowe's website has a banner indicating $150 off water heaters but none of them are showing any price reductions.
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Aug 18th, 2017 8:34 am
Anyone know when the next GSW sale at Lowe's will be?

It's weird, the Lowe's website has a banner indicating $150 off water heaters but none of them are showing any price reductions.
Yeah the sale is on now, but it's on selected units and up to $150, so, some are $50, $100, and $150. Go to the HWT section and on the very bottom left side, click on the special value filter. The 60G GSW is $150 off.
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koffey wrote:
Aug 18th, 2017 9:26 am
Yeah the sale is on now, but it's on selected units and up to $150, so, some are $50, $100, and $150. Go to the HWT section and on the very bottom left side, click on the special value filter. The 60G GSW is $150 off.
For anyone in the market, the current sale model (60 gallon) is a BIG tank.

I went from a rental 40g to a GSW 50g and there is MORE than enough hot water for most households.
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MrFrugal1 wrote:
Aug 18th, 2017 8:22 am
From what I understand of the processes involved, a water softener will shorten the life of the tank if the anode rod is not inspected and changed as needed.
The residual salt in the water increases the rate of galvanic action, so the sacrifical anode will deteriorate more rapidly. A water softener will reduce scale build up in the hot water tank hard water, but if the anode is not replaced, the scale build up, in my opinion, is a moot point.
The benefits of soft water out weighs any negatives towards the hot water heater. You have considerably more plumbing that would benefit from soft water.
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MrFrugal1 wrote:
Aug 18th, 2017 8:22 am
From what I understand of the processes involved, a water softener will shorten the life of the tank if the anode rod is not inspected and changed as needed.
The residual salt in the water increases the rate of galvanic action, so the sacrifical anode will deteriorate more rapidly. A water softener will reduce scale build up in the hot water tank hard water, but if the anode is not replaced, the scale build up, in my opinion, is a moot point.
Yes, that was my understanding too, thx. So, need to change the anode sooner than every 5yrs, like every 3.5-4yrs
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